Solving for Flux Using Enclosed Charge

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The problem involves calculating the total electric flux through the surface of a cylinder due to two line charges with given charge densities. The context is within the subject area of electromagnetism, specifically dealing with electric fields and flux.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of the electric field from the line charges and the implications of its non-constancy on the surface of the cylinder. There is an attempt to relate the total flux to the enclosed charge, leading to questions about how to determine the enclosed charge from the given charge densities.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on using the relationship between total flux and enclosed charge, suggesting that the calculation can be simplified by focusing on the charge densities and the cylinder's height. There is an ongoing exploration of whether the method for finding enclosed charge varies with different types of fields.

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Participants are working with specific charge densities and dimensions but express uncertainty about how to derive the enclosed charge from the provided information. The discussion reflects a need for clarification on the application of concepts in different scenarios.

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Homework Statement



https://www.smartphysics.com/Content/Media/Images/EM/03/h3_lineD.png

Where, λ1 = -3.2 μC/cm, λ2 = 9.6 μC/cm, a = 8.5 cm and h = 11.4 cm. a/2 = 4.25 cm.

What is the total flux that passes through the surface of the cylinder?

Homework Equations



E = 2kλ/r
\Phi = E*A = qenclosed/\epsilono

The Attempt at a Solution



The first thing I did was solve for the total electric field of the two line charges, which is 338823529.411765 N/C. After this, the next step would be to simply multiply by the surface area of the cylinder. However, this doesn't work because the electric field is not constant throughout the surface of the cylinder.

My next step was to try and solve it using the enclosed charge, but since I have only been given the charge densities of each line, I have no clue how to figure out enclosed charge. Is there a specific method as to how you can do this?

Any help is greatly appreciated.
 
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InertialRef said:

Homework Statement



https://www.smartphysics.com/Content/Media/Images/EM/03/h3_lineD.png

Where, λ1 = -3.2 μC/cm, λ2 = 9.6 μC/cm, a = 8.5 cm and h = 11.4 cm. a/2 = 4.25 cm.

What is the total flux that passes through the surface of the cylinder?

Homework Equations



E = 2kλ/r
\Phi = E*A = qenclosed/\epsilono

The Attempt at a Solution



The first thing I did was solve for the total electric field of the two line charges, which is 338823529.411765 N/C. After this, the next step would be to simply multiply by the surface area of the cylinder. However, this doesn't work because the electric field is not constant throughout the surface of the cylinder.

My next step was to try and solve it using the enclosed charge, but since I have only been given the charge densities of each line, I have no clue how to figure out enclosed charge. Is there a specific method as to how you can do this?
Any help is greatly appreciated.

As you have noted, the electric field is not constant on the surface, so it is not AE. But the total flux is always equal to the enclosed charge divided by ε0: you need to calculate that only from the λ-s and length h.
 
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ehild said:
As you have noted, the electric field is not constant on the surface, so it is not AE. But the total flux is always equal to the enclosed charge divided by ε0: you need to calculate that only from the λ-s and length h.

Alright, thank you. :) I think I got it now.

I do have one more question though. Is the method used to find the enclosed charge different depending upon what type of field you are dealing with?
 
I do not get you. It is valid for the relation between electric flux and enclosed charge.

ehild
 

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