Solving for Internal Resistance: Thenevin Equivalent Circuit Explained

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The problem involves determining the internal resistance of an automobile battery based on its terminal voltage under load conditions. The context is rooted in circuit analysis, specifically relating to the Thenevin equivalent circuit.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between terminal voltage, load current, and internal resistance. Questions arise regarding the representation of the starter motor in the circuit and the relevance of the Thenevin equivalent circuit.

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Some participants have offered hints about considering the battery as a voltage source with internal resistance, while others are exploring the implications of the voltage drop when current flows. There is an ongoing exploration of how to represent components in the circuit diagram.

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Participants are navigating the problem with limited information on circuit representation and the specific definitions of components involved. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the initial approach to the problem.

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Homework Statement



An automobile battery has a terminal voltage of 12.8 V with no load. When the starter motor, which draws 90 A, is running, the terminal voltage drops to 11 V. What’s the internal resistance of the battery?

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I think the solution must involve finding a Thenevin equivalent circuit?

The Attempt at a Solution



This is a problem from a homework written by my teacher, and from the reading in the book I have absolutely no idea where to start this one. Can anyone help point me in the right direction and help me see what the circuit is even supposed to look like?

Thanks for the help
 
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phrygian said:
I think the solution must involve finding a Thenevin equivalent circuit?
No need for anything like that.

Hint: Think of the battery as being a voltage source in series with an internal resistance. When no current flows, the voltage drop across that resistance is 0. What's the voltage drop when 90 A flows through it?
 
So the answer is as simple as 1.8 V / 90 A? Is the starter motor a resistor or what do you write it as when you draw the circuit?
 
phrygian said:
So the answer is as simple as 1.8 V / 90 A?
Yep.
Is the starter motor a resistor or what do you write it as when you draw the circuit?
It doesn't matter what you write for the starter motor, since it's outside the terminals of the battery. I guess you could show it as a resistor if you want.
 
You might find this helpful: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electric/dcex6.html"
 
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