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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around solving for the Rydberg constant (R) in the context of atomic spectroscopy, specifically using spectral values for Helium to derive wavelengths for Hydrogen. Participants are addressing a homework problem that involves calculations related to the Rydberg formula and the accuracy of their results.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents their calculations for R using different wavelength values and expresses concern over a significant error in their results.
  • Another participant points out that the units for R should be in the denominator, suggesting that the participant may have dropped units in their calculations.
  • A participant acknowledges the feedback and recalculates R, but finds their result still deviates from the expected value, prompting them to question their methodology.
  • One participant proposes that the instructor may have made an error in providing the expected value for R, suggesting that the correct value should be 1.10 x 10^7 m^-1 instead of 1.10 x 10^-7 m^-1.
  • Another participant agrees with the proposed value of R, indicating that it aligns with the expected order of magnitude for 1/λ.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the correct value of R, with some suggesting a potential error in the instructor's provided value. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the accuracy of the calculations and the expected results.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential issues with unit conversions and the accuracy of the instructor's values, but these aspects remain unresolved within the discussion.

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Homework Statement


For our lab, we looked through the spectrometer to find the spectral values for Helium, which after being plugged into an excel spreadsheet, yielded an equation which I could use to find the wavelengths for Hydrogen. We were told to solve for R, which I did. However, at the end, all of my values have a 99.9% error! Even when I use my professor's wavelength values, I do not get the actual value of R = 1.10x10^-7 m-1. Am I calculating this wrong? My professor's wavelength values for #1,2,&3 respectively are 675, 450, & 415 nm.

Homework Equations


1/λ = R ((1/2^2)-(1/ninitial^2))


The Attempt at a Solution


1) 1/748.60606 nm = R ((1/2^2)-(1/3^2)); 0.0013358161 = R ((1/4)-(1/9)); 0.0013358161 = R (0.13888889); R = 0.0096178758 nm x (1 m/1 x 10^9 nm) = 9.6178758 x 10^-12 = 9.6 x 10^-12

2) 1/460.72727 nm = R ((1/2^2)-(1/4^2)); 0.0021704815 = R ((1/4)-(1/16)); 0.0021704815 = R (0.1875); R = 0.011575901 nm x (1 m/1 x 10^9 nm) = 1.1575901 x 10^-11 = 1.2 x 10^-11

3) 1/384.96970 nm= R ((1/2^2)-(1/6^2)); 0.0025976070 = R ((1/4)-(1/36)); 0.0025976070 = R (0.22222222); R = 0.011689232 nm x (1 m/1 x 10^9 nm) = 1.1689232 x 10^-11 = 1.2 x 10^-11
 
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1/748.60606 nm
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R = 0.0096178758 nm x (1 m/1 x 10^9 nm)
nm should be in the denominator in both cases. This would have been easy to spot if you did not drop the units in between.
It is the same for the other calculations.
 
Ok, I see what you mean. At the end, I should have done (for number one) R = 0.0096178758 nm^-1 x (1 x 10^9 nm/1 m) which results in 9.6178759 x 10^6 m^-1. My answer is even more off. I tried this with my instructor's value to see if I get the correct answer. I did 1/675 nm = R ((1/2^2) - (1/3^2)) and got the result of 1.0666667 m^-1 x 10^7 and it should be 1.10x10^-7 m-1. Is there something else I am not doing correctly?
 
I think I figured it out. I think my instructor made a mistake on this. I believe the answer should be 1.10 x 10^7 m^-1 and not 1.10 x 10^-7 m^-1. After calculating the normal equation constants, this is what I came up with.
1/wavelength = (2.18 x 10^-18 J / ((6.63 x 10^-34 J x s)(3.00 x 10^8 m/s)) x ((1/2^2)-(1/ninitial^2))

1/wavelength = (1.0960282 x 10^7 m^-1) x ((1/2^2)-(1/ninitial^2))
 
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As a simple cross-check, R should have the same order of magnitude as 1/λ.
1.10 x 10^7 m^(-1) looks good, 1.10 x 10^(-1) m^(-1) is wrong.
 

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