Solving for Velocity: How to Integrate a Complex Function with Constants?

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The discussion revolves around integrating a complex function for velocity, specifically the equation $$v = \sqrt{2g\frac{T-v \pi r^2t}{\pi R^2}}$$ where g, T, r, and R are constants. The goal is to find a relationship between velocity and time to derive a displacement equation.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore how to approach the integration of the velocity function, questioning whether to solve for velocity as a function of time or another variable. There are discussions about the implications of obtaining a quadratic equation in terms of velocity and the need to identify the correct root.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering suggestions on how to proceed with the integration. Some guidance has been provided on solving for velocity as a function of time and the potential complexity of the resulting quadratic equation.

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There is an acknowledgment of the complexity involved in the integration process, and participants express a need for clarification on the setup and assumptions regarding the variables involved.

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Homework Statement


Integrate
$$v = \sqrt{2g\frac{T-v \pi r^2t}{\pi R^2}}$$

where g,T,r,R are constants

Homework Equations


N/A

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried playing around with the variables, but I am not sure how to integrate this. Just give me a little bit of hint would do. Thanks!
 
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Sewager said:

Homework Statement


Integrate
$$v = \sqrt{2g\frac{T-v \pi r^2t}{\pi R^2}}$$

where g,T,r,R are constants

Homework Equations


N/A

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried playing around with the variables, but I am not sure how to integrate this. Just give me a little bit of hint would do. Thanks!

Integrate what? Are you solving for ##v##as a function of ##r## or ##t## for example, then calculating ##\int v\, dr## or ##\int v\, dt##? Or, are you solving for (say) ##r## as a function of ##v## then computing ##\int r \, dv##? Or are you trying to do something else?
 
Ray Vickson said:
Integrate what? Are you solving for ##v##as a function of ##r## or ##t## for example, then calculating ##\int v\, dr## or ##\int v\, dt##? Or, are you solving for (say) ##r## as a function of ##v## then computing ##\int r \, dv##? Or are you trying to do something else?

I sincerely apologize for my lack of explanations.

v is velocity and t is time. The rest are just constants. I want to integrate velocity vs. time to find the displacement equation
 
Sewager said:
I sincerely apologize for my lack of explanations.

v is velocity and t is time. The rest are just constants. I want to integrate velocity vs. time to find the displacement equation

It will be messy. Just solve for ##v## as a function of ##t## (I.e., ##v = f(t)##) then integrate, or try to. You will get a quadratic equation in ##v##, so there will be two roots (that is, two functions ##v = f_1(t)## or ##v = f_2(t)##) and you will need to figure out which one is the correct root, probably using other information that you have.
 
Ray Vickson said:
It will be messy. Just solve for ##v## as a function of ##t## (I.e., ##v = f(t)##) then integrate, or try to. You will get a quadratic equation in ##v##, so there will be two roots (that is, two functions ##v = f_1(t)## or ##v = f_2(t)##) and you will need to figure out which one is the correct root, probably using other information that you have.
Thank you very much, I think I have a basic understanding now! Very appreciate it!
 

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