Solving for weight and mass in kg in an elevator

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The discussion focuses on calculating the weight and scale reading of a 65 kg woman in an elevator accelerating downward at 0.2g. The normal force (Fn) is calculated as 509.6N, and the scale reads 52 kg when accounting for the reduced effective gravitational acceleration (0.8g). The key equations used include W=mg and F=ma, with the gravitational constant set at 9.8 m/s². The participants clarify the algebraic reasoning behind subtracting 0.2g from 1g and the conversion of force to mass for the scale reading.

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Homework Statement
A 65 kg woman descends in an elevator that briefly accelerates at 0.20 g downward. She stands on a scale that reads in kg. During this acceleration, what is her weight and what does the scale read?
Relevant Equations
Use Weight= mass*gravitational acceleration and F= ma
Fn= normal force

W=mg
W=(65)(9.8)= 637N

Fn-637= -(65)(0.2*9.8)
Fn= 509.6N

I got the weight of the woman in the elevator, but I have trouble finding what the scale reads in kg. I was given the solution which read:
a = (g-0.2g)= 0.8g
W= 0.8g*509.6N= 52kg.

My questions
1. why do I have to subtract 0.2g from 1g?
2. Why don't they substitute gravitational constant(9.8m/s^2) in "g"?
 
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Sunwoo Bae said:
Homework Statement: A 65 kg woman descends in an elevator that briefly accelerates at 0.20kg downward. She stands on a scale that reads in kg. During this acceleration, what is her weight and what does the scale read?
Homework Equations: Use Weight= mass*gravitational acceleration and F= ma

Fn= normal force

W=mg
W=(65)(9.8)= 637N

Fn-637= -(65)(0.2*9.8)
Fn= 509.6N

I got the weight of the woman in the elevator, but I have trouble finding what the scale reads in kg.
You are correct so far. To convert the force to mass you just divide by g and thus you find what the scale reads in Kg.
I was given the solution which read:
a = (g-0.2g)= 0.8g
W= 0.8g*509.6N= 52kg.

My questions
1. why do I have to subtract 0.2g from 1g?
2. Why don't they substitute gravitational constant(9.8m/s^2) in "g"?
1. IF we follow exactly the same route as your solution but replace the numbers in the end we' ll have
$$F_n-mg=-m(0.2g)\Rightarrow F_n=mg-m(0.2g)=m(g-0.2g)$$
So it's a matter of algebra and replace the numbers in the end for why we have to just subtract 0.2g from g and multiply that by the mass m to find the normal force.
2.Because we have to divide the force by g to convert the force ##F_n## to the Kg scale .
 
I got it! Thanks a lot!
 

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