Solving for x: Questioning a Puzzling Step

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The discussion revolves around a mathematical problem involving integration and differentiation of a function, specifically focusing on the steps provided in a textbook. The original poster questions the validity of a particular step in the integration process related to a function f(x).

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the conditions under which the integration steps are valid, with some questioning the assumptions made in the original poster's example. There is a discussion about rewriting equations in terms of total derivatives and the implications of doing so.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the problem without using explicit integrals, suggesting that the integration can be simplified. There is a recognition of a potential error in the original equation, prompting further clarification.

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Participants note that the function used in the original poster's example does not satisfy the necessary conditions for the steps to hold. There is also mention of a possible missing factor in the equation being discussed.

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These are the steps in my book for a question-

f(x) x f1(x) = 1

∫f(x) x d{f(x)} = ∫1dx

{f(x)}2/2 + C = x

I don't get how is second step possible.

Say we have a function f(x) = x2

By the above steps,

∫x2.d/dx(x2) = ∫1dx
∫x22xdx = ∫1dx
x4/2 + C = x where L.H.S. is not same as x3/3 + C

How is it possible?
 
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In order for the second step to be possible your function has to satisfy the first property. Which your example does not. Watch also that in the first line of your example you should have d(x^2) and not dx (x^2).

This is just the elaborate way of sovling the differential equation. Later you will do it without the explicit integrals.
 
Can you show me how to do it without integrals?
 
You can rewrite the first equation as a total derivative
f\ f'=\frac{d}{dx}(f^2)=1
From this you immediately see, that f^2=x+C
Strictly speaking you still do the integral, but as they are so easy you can immediately do them in your head.
 
betel said:
You can rewrite the first equation as a total derivative
f\ f'=\frac{d}{dx}(f^2)=1
From this you immediately see, that f^2=x+C

Is there a 2 missing in R.H.S. of first equation (numerator)?
 
Yes, your are right.
<br /> f\ f&#039;=\frac{1}{2}\frac{d}{dx}(f^2)=1<br />
 
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