Solving Fractional Part Sum S(n): a,b,n Natural Non-Null Numbers

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The discussion revolves around solving the sum of fractional parts defined as S(n) = { (a+b)/n } + { (2a+b)/n } + { (3a+b)/n } + ... + { (na+b)/n }, where a, b, and n are natural non-null numbers and (a,n)=1. Participants explore the mathematical properties and implications of this expression, seeking a comprehensive solution.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests a solution to the sum of fractional parts and emphasizes the need for a thorough explanation.
  • Another participant attempts to clarify the expression for S(n) and suggests that it can be simplified, but expresses confusion about the notation used for the fractional part and greatest common factor.
  • A participant reiterates the definition of the fractional part and the meaning of (a,n)=1, providing examples to illustrate the concept.
  • Further discussion includes a note on the notation for the greatest common divisor, suggesting that different terminologies can lead to misunderstandings in an international forum.
  • One participant mentions that they received help from another source that involved a modulo n approach, indicating that they have found a solution elsewhere.
  • Another participant expresses interest in the solution found by the original poster on a different forum.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the solution to the problem. There are differing understandings of the notation and concepts involved, and while one participant claims to have found a solution, the details of that solution are not discussed within this thread.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved issues regarding the notation for fractional parts and greatest common divisors, which may affect clarity in communication among participants from different educational backgrounds.

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Hi everyone!
How to solve this: S(n) = { (a+b)/n } + { (2a+b)/n } + { (3a+b)/n } + ... + { (na+b)/n } where {x} represents fractional part of x. a,b,n are natural non-null numbers and (a,n)=1.

I don`t need only an answer, i need a good solution.

Thanks!
 
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Welcome to PF;
Have I understood you...
$$S(n)=\frac{a+b}{n}+\frac{2a+b}{n}+\cdots +\frac{(n-1)a+b}{n}+\frac{na+b}{n}$$ ... ... if this is what you intended, then it looks straight forward to simplify: notice that each term is over a common denominator ... you should be able to see what to do from there.

Note: I don't know what you mean by "{x} is the fractional part of x" or "(a,n)=1".
 
redount2k9 said:
You didn't understand.
I had a feeling...
We say that a number x = {x} + [x]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractional_part
(a,n) = 1 that means the greatest common factor
Ex: (2, 3)=1
(23, 29)=1
(14, 19)=1
Hope this helps but I think
you know physics better because this notions are learned in middle school.
Thanks!
Thanks for the detailed description.
You did provide the context with "fractional part" but I didn't get it because this was not taught that way, with those words, in NZ when I went to "middle school" (though I may have missed that class due to dodging dinosaurs and contemplating the possibilities of this new-fangled "wheel" thingy.)

Mind you - (a,b) for "greatest common divisor" (factor - whatever) would be an older and ifaik uncommon notation - it is more usual to see "gcd(a,b)" instead. This sort of thing makes international forums more fun :D

So...
$$\sum_{i=1}^n \left \{ \frac{ia+b}{n} \right \}=\sum_{i=1}^n \frac{ia+b}{n}-\sum_{i=1}^n \left \lfloor \frac{ia+b}{n} \right \rfloor$$

It occurs to me that the properties of the floor function may help here?
...

Note: This is the source of the problem http://www.viitoriolimpici.ro/uploads/attach_data/112/45/26//4e02c08p03.pdf[/QUOTE]
 
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Thanks anyway man, a very good math guy helped me on other forum with a modulo n solve. It was the best I`ve ever seen. It is solved now, but thanks!
 
Cool - link to the solution?
 
Thanks :)
 

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