Solving Hexagon Area: Formula Troubles and Possible Solutions

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the area calculation of a regular hexagon, specifically addressing the use of different formulas and the discrepancies that arise when using the apothem. Participants explore the implications of using various methods to derive the area and the confusion stemming from conflicting information found in online resources.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a formula for the area of a regular hexagon, ##6x^2√3##, where ##x## is half the side length, and expresses confusion over discrepancies in area calculations using the apothem.
  • Another participant asserts that a regular hexagon has only one area, suggesting that the formula must be either correct or incorrect, and notes that the area can be calculated without the apothem.
  • A participant points out that the provided side length and apothem values do not correspond to a regular hexagon, indicating a misunderstanding of the definitions involved.
  • Further clarification is offered regarding the relationship between side length and apothem, with calculations provided to illustrate the correct values for a hexagon with a given side length.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the accuracy of online videos claiming certain hexagons are regular based on incorrect parameters.
  • There is a mention of the approximation involved in the area calculations presented in the videos, highlighting the need for precision in mathematical communication.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the validity of the area calculations based on the provided parameters. There is no consensus on the correctness of the formulas or the definitions of regular hexagons as used in the examples.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in the assumptions made about the relationship between side length and apothem in regular hexagons. There are unresolved mathematical steps regarding the area calculations and the definitions of regularity in polygons.

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I've found a formula for the area of a regular hexagon,but it seems to falter when i try to finds its area using the apothem sometimes,i know the formula is not wrong because i derived and verified it's authenticity so that can't be it.

I heard that by not utilizing the apothem formula, you may be off by a small decimal amount,which is what usually happens to me.

Does anyone know what i am talking about?

Im willing to provide an example and my formula if anyone has trouble understanding what I am talking about.

Thank you :)
 
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Unless you provide more information, it is not clear what you are talking about. A given hexagon has only one area; your formula is correct or it isn't. BTW, you can determine the area of a hexagon (or any polygon) without necessarily using the apothem.
 
SteamKing said:
Unless you provide more information, it is not clear what you are talking about. A given hexagon has only one area; your formula is correct or it isn't. BTW, you can determine the area of a hexagon (or any polygon) without necessarily using the apothem.

Thank you mister:)

The formula is ##6x^2√3##, the only difference is that ##x## is half of a side length. (ex:6 is the side length, 3 is ##x##)

For example for a regular hexagon of side length 8 and apothem 7,I get 166.2768...,however in a entirely different youtube video this very same problem gets an area of EXACTLY 168 (using the apothem formula, that is).

That is the confusion that is making me question whether it's right or not.
 
shadowboy13 said:
For example for a regular hexagon of side length 8 and apothem 7 [...]

There is no such regular hexagon. With a side length 8, the apothem would be √48 ~= 6.928 and with apothem 7 the side length would be √(196/3) ~= 8.08
 
jbriggs444 said:
There is no such regular hexagon. With a side length 8, the apothem would be √48 ~= 6.928 and with apothem 7 the side length would be √(196/3) ~= 8.08

Thank you :)

Don't know why several videos on youtube have been mentioning that those sort of hexagons are "regular" but whatever.

Thanks again :)
 
Without URLs for these videos, it is hard to check them out.
 
SteamKing said:
Without URLs for these videos, it is hard to check them out.



That's on the very first page of list results mind you, so i wasn't scavenging for results, the fact that the person in that video said that it was a regular hexagon is what got me confused, because like i said, my formula clearly works.
 
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That's almost amusing. As jbriggs444 said, a hexagon with side length 8 would have apothegm of slightly greater than 6.9. Clearly, that has been rounded to "7" but that should have been said. And the area, as given in that video is only approximate although, again, that is not said.

One can calculate, more generally, that if a polygon has n sides, then drawing lines from the center to each vertex divides it into n triangles, each with central angle \frac{2\pi}{n} the altitude of each triangle, an apothegm of the polygon, gives a right triangle with one leg the apothegm, the other leg half a side, and angle \frac{\pi}{n}. So taking "a" to be the length of the apothegm and "s" the length of a side, \frac{s/2}{a}= tan(\pi/n) so that a= s/(2 tan(\pi/n)).

In particular, a hexagon with side length 8 has a= 4/tan(\pi/6)= 4/\sqrt{3}= 6.9282...

The "area of the octagon" calculation is, similarly, an approximation.
 
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HallsofIvy said:
In particular, a hexagon with side length 8 has a= 4/tan(\pi/6)= 4/\sqrt{3}= 6.9282...

Nitpick on error in intermediate step...

tan(\pi/6)=1/\sqrt{3}

so

4/tan(\pi/6)=4\sqrt{3}=6.9282...
 

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