Solving Hexagon Question: What Else Do I Need to Know?

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The discussion revolves around solving a geometry problem involving a hexagon and its relationship with triangles and a square. Participants explore methods to calculate the area of the hexagon by using the areas of specific triangles and the properties of the square.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant states they know the length AM is 10 but expresses uncertainty about further steps.
  • Another participant proposes calculating the area of the hexagon by subtracting the areas of triangles AMN and CPQ from the area of the square.
  • A claim is made that the area of triangle AMN is 50 cm² based on a calculation involving its base and height.
  • Participants discuss the length of diagonal AC, with one stating it is the square root of 800, while another provides a formula for the diagonal of a square.
  • There is a calculation of the altitude of triangle AMN based on the properties of the square's diagonal.
  • One participant suggests that the altitude of triangle CPQ can be derived from the diagonal AC, leading to further calculations.
  • Participants calculate the length of segment PQ and relate it to the area of triangle CPQ.
  • There are calculations regarding the area of the hexagon, with different participants providing their results based on earlier computations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the methods to calculate areas and the relationships between the geometric figures, but there are variations in the calculations and interpretations of certain steps. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the final area of the hexagon, as different values are proposed.

Contextual Notes

Some calculations depend on assumptions about the dimensions and relationships between the shapes involved. There are unresolved steps in the reasoning that could affect the final area calculation.

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I know AM is 10... and that's it. I don't know.

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I think what I would do to find the area of the hexagon, is to take the area of the entire square, and subtract the areas of $\triangle AMN$ and $\triangle CPQ$.

First, can you give the area of $\triangle AMN$?
 
50, because (10)(10/2)?
 
Yes, we have:

$$\triangle AMN=50\text{ cm}^2$$

Okay, now in the last diagram, consider the diagonal $\overline{AC}$ What is its length? If we look at where this diagonal intersects $\overline{MN}$ and $\overline{PQ}$ we see the it is divided into 2 equal segments and a third segment which is the altitude of $\triangle AMN$ with $\overline{MN}$ serving as the base. Can you find this altitude?
 
AC is the square root of 800, but I don't understand what else youre saying.
 
A square whose sides measure $x$ in length will have a diagonal of length $\sqrt{2}x$, which means $\overline{AC}=20\sqrt{2}\text{ cm}$, and this agrees with what you found when you simply.

Okay, so we now know the length of $\overline{AC}$. So next, we can subtract from this the altitude of $\triangle AMN$ where $\overline{MN}$ is the base. This will be half the distance of the diagonal of a square having side lengths of $10\text{ cm}$. Or, we can simply observe this is 1/4 of the length of $\overline{AC}$. So, we are left with 3/4 of the diagonal $\overline{AC}$ which we must cut in half to get the altitude of $\triangle {CPQ}$ where $\overline{PQ}$ is the base. What do you find?
 
3/8 of 20√2?
 
Let's observe that what we have is that:

$$x=\overline{PQ}=\frac{3}{4}20\sqrt{2}\text{ cm}=15\sqrt{2}\text{ cm}$$

Now, using our knowledge of the length of the diagonal of a square, we may state:

$$x=\sqrt{2}\overline{CP}$$

Can you now find $\overline{CP}$ and thus the area of $\triangle CPQ$?
 
15, so 15 times 7.5 which is 112.5?
 
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Yes, that's correct...so what is the area of the hexagon?
 
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400-162.5= 237.5?
 
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Let's let $A$ be the area of the hexagon. We then have:

$$A=\left(20^2-\frac{1}{2}10^2-\frac{1}{2}15^2\right)\text{ cm}^2=\frac{475}{2}\,\text{cm}^2=237.5\text{ cm}^2\quad\checkmark$$

Good work! (Star)
 

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