Solving Integral in Picture: Step-by-Step Guide

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The discussion revolves around solving a specific integral presented in a picture, with participants exploring various methods of integration, including substitution techniques and trigonometric identities. The conversation includes hints, proposed substitutions, and comparisons of different forms of the integral's solution.

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  • One participant suggests that trigonometric substitution might be appropriate for solving the integral, questioning the form of the denominator.
  • Another participant provides a hint involving the derivative of the inverse cosine function, indicating a potential approach to the integral.
  • Multiple participants propose the substitution of cotangent in terms of cosine and sine, suggesting that this could lead to a solution.
  • A participant reports solving the integral using a specific substitution but arrives at a different form of the result than expected, prompting a discussion about the validity of both forms.
  • Another participant notes the relationship between arcsine and arccosine, suggesting that both forms of the solution are valid due to the identity involving their sum.
  • One participant shares an integral identity related to the inverse cosine and inverse sine functions, contributing to the discussion on the equivalence of different forms of the solution.

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Participants express differing views on the appropriate method for solving the integral and the validity of the resulting forms. There is no consensus on a single approach or solution, as multiple methods and interpretations are presented.

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Some assumptions about the integral's form and the applicability of certain substitutions remain unverified. The discussion includes various mathematical identities that may influence the interpretation of the results.

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Can somebody explain how to solve integral from the picture above?( solution is in the second line)
 

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I haven't worked out the solution yet, but given the answer and the general form of the integral I would guess trig substitution is the way to solve it. Question though - should the $(1-k^2)$ in the denominator actually be $(1-k^2)^2$?

If that's not the way to solve it then maybe there's something with the substitution $(k \cot(\theta))^2=k^2 \cot^2(\theta)=k^2(\csc^2(\theta)-1)$, but I'm not sure yet. Will post back if anything comes to mind.
 
Hint :

$$\frac{d}{dx} \left(\cos^{-1} (f) \right) = \frac{-f'}{\sqrt{1-f^2}}$$​
 
Hint: Try the substitution:

$$\cot(\theta)=\frac{\sqrt{1-k^2}}{k}\cos(u)$$

Hence:

$$\csc^2(\theta)\,d\theta=\frac{\sqrt{1-k^2}}{k}\sin(u)\,du$$

And the result will follow. :D
 
MarkFL said:
Hint: Try the substitution:

$$\cot(\theta)=\frac{\sqrt{1-k^2}}{k}\cos(u)$$

Hence:

$$\csc^2(\theta)\,d\theta=\frac{\sqrt{1-k^2}}{k}\sin(u)\,du$$

And the result will follow. :D

No need for substitution. Of course it is more advisable on an elementary level .
 
Thank you,

i solved it, using substitution:

$$u= (k*ctgθ)/(1-k^2 )$$

But, my result is:

$$ϕ=-arcsin((k∙ctgθ)/√(1-k^2 ))+c_2$$

instead of

$$ϕ=arccos((k∙ctgθ)/√(1-k^2 ))+c_2$$

Is this correct?
 
FilipVz said:
Thank you,

i solved it, using substitution:

$$u= (k*ctgθ)/(1-k^2 )$$

But, my result is:

$$ϕ=-arcsin((k∙ctgθ)/√(1-k^2 ))+c_2$$

instead of

$$ϕ=arccos((k∙ctgθ)/√(1-k^2 ))+c_2$$

Is this correct?

Yes, that's another possible form. Consider the identity:

$$\sin^{-1}(x)+\cos^{-1}(x)=\frac{\pi}{2}$$

along with the fact that the sum of an arbitrary constant and another constant is still an arbitrary constant. :D
 
$$\int \frac{-1}{\sqrt{1-x^2}} \, dx = \cos^{-1}(x)+A$$

$$-\int \frac{1}{\sqrt{1-x^2}} \, dx = -\sin^{-1}(x)+B$$

And this simply because

$$\cos^{-1}(x)+\sin^{-1}(x) =\frac{\pi}{2}$$
 

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