Solving Integral of (e^3x)cos(2x) and Cos(sqrt.x)

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The discussion revolves around finding the integrals of two expressions: (e^3x)cos(2x) and cos(sqrt.x). Participants are exploring methods for integration, particularly focusing on integration by parts.

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  • The original poster attempts to use trigonometric identities and integration by parts for the first integral but finds the process complicated. They express uncertainty about how to apply integration by parts to the second integral due to its structure.
  • Some participants suggest using integration by parts multiple times for both integrals, although there is uncertainty regarding the effectiveness of this approach for the second integral.
  • Questions arise about the derivative of cos(2x) and its relevance to the integration process, with some participants reflecting on their understanding of the topic.

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There is an ongoing exploration of integration techniques, with some participants sharing their attempts and insights. While guidance has been offered regarding the use of integration by parts, there is no explicit consensus on the best approach for either integral. The discussion remains active, with participants questioning their assumptions and clarifying concepts.

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Participants note a lack of instruction on certain derivatives, which may be impacting their ability to solve the integrals effectively. There is also mention of constraints related to the original poster's learning environment.

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Homework Statement



I need to find the integral of (e^3x)cos(2x)

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I tried using different trig identities for cos(2x) to get a better equation and then tried to do few versions using the integration by parts but they all kept getting more complicated.




Also I need to find cos(sqrt.x). I am not sure how to do the integration by parts since I have only one piece of equation. Just setting X^1/2=u won't work couse du part has x in it which I can't take out of the integral.
 
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I solved the second one but the first one is still killing me.
 
Use integration by parts, several times(I think twice will do it) for the first one. I think integration by parts might work for the second one too(try integrating 1*dx and differentiation cos(x1/2 when you do integration by parts), but I'm not completely sure that will work.
 
d_leet said:
Use integration by parts, several times(I think twice will do it) for the first one. I think integration by parts might work for the second one too(try integrating 1*dx and differentiation cos(x1/2 when you do integration by parts), but I'm not completely sure that will work.

Got the first one too. Thanks for the help. It would help if we actually learned the derivative of cos(2x), but since we didn't and it is nowhere in the book I just assumed we don't need to use it. Well...I certainly do feel better now.:smile:
 
ludi_srbin said:
Got the first one too. Thanks for the help. It would help if we actually learned the derivative of cos(2x), but since we didn't and it is nowhere in the book I just assumed we don't need to use it. Well...I certainly do feel better now.:smile:

Glad to help, as for the derivative of cos(2x), if you know the derivative of cos(x) and the chain rule you can work out the derivative of cos(2x).

So we have

y=cos(2x)
if u = 2x then
y=cos(u) and
dy/dx={d[cos(u)]/du}*{du/dx}
y'=-sin(u)*{du/dx}
and remember that u=2x so
y'=-sin(2x)*{d[2x]/dx}
y'=-2sin(2x)
 
d_leet said:
Glad to help, as for the derivative of cos(2x), if you know the derivative of cos(x) and the chain rule you can work out the derivative of cos(2x).

So we have

y=cos(2x)
if u = 2x then
y=cos(u) and
dy/dx={d[cos(u)]/du}*{du/dx}
y'=-sin(u)*{du/dx}
and remember that u=2x so
y'=-sin(2x)*{d[2x]/dx}
y'=-2sin(2x)

Yup. Today in class I realized how stupid was what I wrote here last night. :blushing:

I guess, for some reason, I assumed that because there is that 2x regular cos formula for derivative doesen't apply.

Thanks for help. I appreciate it.
 

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