Solving Integration Problem: ∫(20te^{-10t}) dt w/ Limits 0 & 20 us

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the integral ∫(20te^{-10t}) dt with specified limits of 0 and 20 microseconds. The subject area pertains to integration techniques, particularly involving exponential functions and integration by parts.

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  • Participants discuss the application of limits to the integral and the variable τ, questioning whether limits should be applied to all parts of the expression, including terms not directly integrated.

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Some participants have provided guidance on evaluating the integral and applying limits, while others are clarifying the correct form of the expression and checking for accuracy in the calculations. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of applying limits to different components of the integral.

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I know ∫(xe^{ax}) dx = x (e^{ax} / a) - (1/a) ∫e^{ax} . 1 dx = x (e^{ax} / a) - (1/a) (e^{ax} / a)

= (e^{ax} / a) (x - 1/a)



i.e, integral of two functions = (first function) (integral of second function) - ∫(integral of second function) (differential of first function)

This is not a homework. I am a working professional and I need help in solving a problem.

The solution I need is for

(1/0.1) ∫20te^{-10t} dt between limits 0 and 20 us. limits can be taken as 0 to t. I don't need numerical solution.

t = \tau

dt = d\tau

integral becomes

200 ∫\taue^{-10\tau} d\tau between limits 0 and t

it becomes 200 [ \tau (e^{-10\tau} / - 10) + (1/10) ∫e^{-10\tau} . 1 d\tau

= 200 [ \tau (e^{-10\tau} / - 10) + (1/10) (e^{-10\tau} / - 10)]

= 200 [ \tau (e^{-10\tau} / - 10) - (1/100) e^{-10\tau}]I know I have to apply limits to the two e^{-10\tau}

I want to know should I apply limits also to \tau which is at the beginning of the solution (here... = 200 [ \tau ...) ?
 
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So you have the indefinite integral
$$\int \tau e^{-10 \tau} \, d\tau = - \tau e^{-10\tau} / 10 - e^{-10\tau} / 100 = -\frac{e^{-10\tau}}{10} \left( \tau - \frac{1}{10} \right)$$
which looks correct to me (I've rewritten it slightly to look a bit better).

Now evaluate that expression at ##\tau = t##, and at ##\tau = 0##, and subtract the result.
 
Yes, everywhere there is a τ, you must substitute the limits.
 
Thank you CompuChip and SteamKing.

CompuChip my question was

I know I have to apply limits to the two (e−10τ / - 10)

I want to know should I apply limits also to τ which is at the beginning of the solution (here... = 200 [ τ ...) ?

Yes, CompuChip the solution you gave is what I have. I was updating my first post to show the solution in the form you gave.

SteamKing gave the answer.

Thank you both of you.

So the limits are applied to whole solution and not just the integrals. Right? i.e., Even though \tau is not integrated or differentiated in the process.

Edit: CompuChip I think you made a mistake.

Is it not

-e^{-10\tau} / 10 (\tau + 1/10)

I get (\tau + 1/10) in the brackets

yours is (\tau - 1/10)

You made a mistake in the sign?I was referring the book "Electric Circuits 9th edition by Nilsson and Riedel" page no 178.

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jayanthd said:
Edit: CompuChip I think you made a mistake.

Is it not

-e^{-10\tau} / 10 (\tau + 1/10)

I get (\tau + 1/10) in the brackets

yours is (\tau - 1/10)

You made a mistake in the sign?

Yes, you are right. Good catch!

I mean, of course I was just checking if you were paying attention.[/size]
 

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