Solving Limits: How to Simplify \lim_{x->0}

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the limit $$\lim_{x \to 0}\frac{3-e^{x^2}-2\cos(x)}{x^2\sin^2(x)}$$, focusing on the simplification process and the application of Taylor expansions. Participants explore various approaches to evaluate the limit, including the behavior of the numerator and denominator as x approaches zero.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant initially presents the limit and expresses difficulty in simplification.
  • Another participant clarifies that the limit is as x approaches zero.
  • Several participants discuss the use of Taylor expansions for the functions involved, suggesting that the numerator may dominate the limit.
  • A participant emphasizes the need to consider the expansions of all functions near the limit point.
  • One participant acknowledges a mistake in their earlier calculations regarding signs and suggests a method for simplification involving cancellation of terms.
  • Another participant confirms the correctness of the previous contributions and discusses specific steps in the simplification process, including the cancellation of terms and the expansion of functions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of confidence in their approaches, with some acknowledging mistakes while others propose methods for simplification. The discussion does not reach a consensus on a single method or outcome, as multiple perspectives and corrections are presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference Taylor expansions and the behavior of functions near the limit point, indicating that assumptions about convergence and the dominance of terms are critical to their reasoning. Specific mathematical steps remain unresolved, and there are indications of typographical errors that may affect clarity.

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Hello MHB,
I am currently working with a old exam and it says.$$\lim_{x->0}\frac{3-e^{x^2}-2\cos(x)}{x^2\sin^2(x)}$$
and this is how far I got but struggle on the simplify
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$$|\pi\rangle$$
 
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I think you mean x goes to zero right ?
 
Re: limit,taylor

ZaidAlyafey said:
I think you mean x goes to zero right ?
Yes ofcourse haha My bad..
 
Re: limit,taylor

$$\lim_{x \to 0}\frac{(3-1-x^2-\frac{x^4}{2!}-\cdot \cdot \cdot ) -2+x^2-2 \cdot \frac{x^4}{4!} +\cdot \cdot \cdot }{x^3-\frac{x^5}{3!}+\cdot \cdot \cdot}$$

Sounds like the numerator dominates, unless you meant sin^2(x) in the denominator ..
 
Re: limit,taylor

By the way , in the case of a limit we have to use the expansion of all functions near the point , which is approached by x , hence the functions must converge .
 
Re: limit,taylor

ZaidAlyafey said:
$$\lim_{x \to 0}\frac{(3-1-x^2-\frac{x^4}{2!}-\cdot \cdot \cdot ) -2+x^2-2 \cdot \frac{x^4}{4!} +\cdot \cdot \cdot }{x^3-\frac{x^5}{3!}+\cdot \cdot \cdot}$$

Sounds like the numerator dominates, unless you meant sin^2(x) in the denominator ..
I am making so much typo..:( I did Edit it now!
 
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Petrus said:
I am making so much typo..:( I did Edit it now!

I am sure you can solve it yourself :)
 
Re: limit,taylor

ZaidAlyafey said:
I am sure you can solve it yourself :)
Actually I believe you are correct! I did accidently had a sign wrong.. If someone is interested how to solve it. You can first cancel out all $$x^0, 3-1-2$$ then you can also cancel out $$x^2, -x^2+\frac{2x^2}{2!}$$ expand that square function at numerator and divide evrything by $$x^4$$ and you get the answer $$- \frac{7}{12}$$, what I did wrong is that I did not see the negative sign in bracket at top. I did take $$\frac{1}{2}-\frac{2}{4!}$$ while it should be $$-\frac{1}{2}-\frac{2}{4!}$$
Thanks once again Zaid!:)

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$$|\pi\rangle$$
 

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