MHB Solving Limits with Delta-Epsilon Proofs

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The discussion focuses on solving a limit using delta-epsilon proofs, specifically for the expression $\lim_{{(x,y)}\to{(0,0)}}\frac{x^2+y^2}{\sqrt{x^2+y^2+1}-1}$. Participants suggest converting to polar coordinates to simplify the limit, which transforms the problem into a one-variable limit. The limit results in the indeterminate form 0/0, prompting the use of L'Hôpital's rule to resolve it. Ultimately, the limit is confirmed to be 2, with the approach validating that it holds true from all angles. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding polar coordinates and limit evaluation techniques.
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PLEASE HELP! i am so lost on this. we're using delta epsilon proofs and i am so confused since it was never properly taught to me in calc 1.

find the limit.
$\lim_{{(x,y)}\to{(0,0)}}\frac{x^2+y^2}{\sqrt{x^2+y^2+1}-1}$
 
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I'm thinkin' you should convert to polar coordinates...

Usually you are given the value of the limit in an epsilon-delta proof. To simply find the value of this limit, convert to polars, then use L'Hôpital. What do you find?
 
im confused on how to find the limit of this...
 
ineedhelpnow said:
im confused on how to find the limit of this...

Converting to polar coordinates means to use:

$$r^2=x^2+y^2$$

Then you will have a limit in one variable...
 
im lookin at the way my book would do it and first that set f(x,y)=(whatever your taking the limit of) and then they do f(x,0) (which I am stuck on) and f(0,y). by using polar coordinates, wouldn't i end up with a 0 in the denominator?
 
ineedhelpnow said:
im lookin at the way my book would do it and first that set f(x,y)=(whatever your taking the limit of) and then they do f(x,0) (which I am stuck on) and f(0,y). by using polar coordinates, wouldn't i end up with a 0 in the denominator?

You will end up with the indeterminate form 0/0, and so this is why I suggested our friend L'Hôpital. :D
 
oh i got it using another method. the answer is 2. is that the final answer though?

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i think the way my book wants me to do it is by testing it with several functions to see if it all approaches the same limit.
 
Yes, 2 is what I got...

$$\lim_{r\to0}\frac{r^2}{\sqrt{r^2+1}-1}=\lim_{r\to0}\frac{2r}{\dfrac{2r}{2\sqrt{r^2+1}}}=\lim_{r\to0}2\sqrt{r^2+1}=2$$

edit: I wanted to add that since when we converted to polar coordinates, and there was no $\theta$, we know we are approaching the limit from "all angles." :D
 

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