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The discussion revolves around evaluating the limit as x approaches k for the expression \(\lim_{x \rightarrow k} \frac {x\sqrt{x} - k\sqrt{k}}{x^{4}-k^{4}}\). Participants share their experiences from a math test and explore various methods for solving limits, particularly focusing on the application of L'Hôpital's rule and algebraic manipulation.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss attempts to apply L'Hôpital's rule and the challenges faced with the limit resulting in an indeterminate form. Some suggest factoring the denominator and using algebraic techniques, while others question the applicability of L'Hôpital's rule from the start.

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The conversation includes various approaches to the limit, with some participants offering hints and others reflecting on their initial misunderstandings. There is an ongoing exploration of different methods, but no consensus has been reached on a single approach.

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Some participants note the importance of confirming the conditions for using L'Hôpital's rule, emphasizing the need to check for indeterminate forms before applying it. Additionally, there are references to specific algebraic manipulations and substitutions that could be relevant to the problem.

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Hey everyone,
I had a math test yesterday. It was pretty hard... This is one of the limits I wasn't able to do.

[tex]\lim_{x \rightarrow k} \frac {x\sqrt{x} - k\sqrt{k}}{x^{4}-k^{4}}[/tex]

I tried the Hopital rule, I tried multiplying the whole expression with the denominator. I didn't get to anything better.

Anyone knows how to do this kind of limits ? Thank you!
 
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Hint: Divide numerator and denominator by x-k.
Then use
[tex]\lim_{x \rightarrow k} \frac {x^n-k^n}{x-k}=nk^{n-1}[/tex]
for both num and den.
 
mohlam12 said:
Hey everyone,
I had a math test yesterday. It was pretty hard... This is one of the limits I wasn't able to do.

[tex]\lim_{x \rightarrow k} \frac {x\sqrt{x} - k\sqrt{k}}{x^{4}-k^{4}}[/tex]

I tried the Hopital rule, I tried multiplying the whole expression with the denominator. I didn't get to anything better.

Anyone knows how to do this kind of limits ? Thank you!

Factorise the denominator. (x^4 - k^4) = (x-k)(x+k)(x^2+k^2). The rightmost two factors can be evaluated immediately at the limit, they become (2k) and (2k^2) respectively, yes ?

Then the limit becomes

[tex]\frac{1}{(2k)(2k^2)}\lim_{x \rightarrow k} \frac {x^{1.5} - k^{1.5}}{x-k}[/tex]

Now observe that the limit that's left is of the form 0/0, and can be reduced by LH rule. Just differentiate numerator and denominator wrt x. Put x = k into that, simplify the algebra and you're left with an expression in k.
 
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Why can't L'Hopital's rule work from the start?
 
BerryBoy said:
Why can't L'Hopital's rule work from the start?

It can ! Stupid me. Orig poster, disregard my post and just differentiate numerator and denominator to get a single expression in x and set x = k.
 
If you use L'Hopital rule in [tex]\frac {x^{1.5} - k^{1.5}}{x-k}[/tex], you will get [tex]\frac {6 \sqrt{k} -6 \sqrt{x}}{4 \sqrt{kx} *(x-k)'}[/tex]
Then what can we do ?
 
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mohlam12 said:
If you use L'Hopital rule in [tex]\frac {x^{1.5} - k^{1.5}}{x-k}[/tex], you will get [tex]\frac {6 \sqrt{k} -6 \sqrt{x}}{4 \sqrt{kx} *(x-k)'}[/tex]
Then what can we do ?

You're not differentiating correctly, the k is a constant and vanishes from both numerator and denominator.
 
:bugeye: !
If only I knew when passing the test! :frown:
Thank you guys
 
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Please note that L'Hopital rule can only be used when your expression is equal to 0/0 or inf/inf. so you need to check your expression each time before you use the rule.
 
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Multiply both the denominator and the numerator by [itex]x\sqrt{x}+k\sqrt{k}[/itex] and then simplify the fraction by [itex]x-k[/itex].


Daniel.
 
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Or change the variable [itex]u=x^4[/itex] and let [itex]a=k^4[/itex], then [itex]u \to a[/itex] as [itex]x \to k[/itex] and the limit becomes:

[tex]\lim_{u \to a} \frac{u^{3/8}-a^{3/8}}{u-a}[/tex]
which is the derivative of [itex]f(u)=u^{3/8}[/itex] at u=a.
 

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