Evaluating limit of floor function

In summary, the limit of nlogx/[x] as x approaches infinity is equal to 0. This can be shown using the sandwich theorem by setting up an inequality with f(x) = lnx/x and g(x) = lnx/[x] and h(x) = lnx/(x-1), and showing that both f(x) and h(x) approach 0 as x approaches infinity, therefore g(x) must also approach 0.
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Homework Statement



How $$ \lim_{x\to\infty} \frac{nlogx}{[x]} = 0 $$ ? Here n∈ ℕ
Here [x] is greatest integer or floor function of x.

Homework Equations


[x] = x - {x} where {x} is fractional part of x.

The Attempt at a Solution


I know floor function is not differentiable.
We are getting here ∞/∞ form but can't apply L hopital rule as denominator is not differentiable.
How the limit evaluates to zero?
 
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use sandwich theorem.
hint: start from ##?\le [x]\le ?##
 
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AdityaDev said:
use sandwich theorem.
hint: start from ##?\le [x]\le ?##
0≤ {x} < 1
Now what?
 
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No. i am asking about [x] and not {x}.
 
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Okay,
-∞≤[x] ≤ ∞ but [x] ≠ fractions
 
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No. Write it as ##f(x)\le [x]\le g(x)##. what is f and g?
 
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AdityaDev said:
No. Write it as ##f(x)\le [x]\le g(x)##. what is f and g?
Why, what is f(x) and g(x) here?
 
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Okay. Use ##x-1\le [x]\le x##
 
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AdityaDev said:
Okay. Use ##x-1\le [x]\le x##
Okay, what next?
 
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try to transform that inequality and make it look like ##\frac{lnx}{[x]}## by taking reciprocal and multiplying by lnx. will the inequality change?
 
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AdityaDev said:
try to transform that inequality and make it look like ##\frac{lnx}{[x]}## by taking reciprocal and multiplying by lnx. will the inequality change?
Then
1/x≤ 1/[x]≤ 1/(x-1)
lnx/x ≤ lnx/[x]≤ lnx/(x-1)
Now?
 
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Good. Now from sandwich theorem, if you have ##f(x)\le g(x)\le h(x)## and ##\lim_{x \to a}f(x)=L=\lim_{x \to a}h(x)##, then you can say that ##\lim_{x \to a}g(x) = L##.
 
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AdityaDev said:
Good. Now from sandwich theorem, if you have ##f(x)\le g(x)\le h(x)## and ##\lim_{x \to a}f(x)=L=\lim_{x \to a}h(x)##, then you can say that ##\lim_{x \to a}g(x) = L##.
Oh, great lnx/x will be zero when x approach infinity same with h(x). So, g(x) evaluates to zero. Thanks.
 
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Raghav Gupta said:
Oh, great lnx/x will be zero when x approach infinity same with h(x). So, g(x) evaluates to zero. Thanks.
Let's be more precise. ln(x)/x never becomes zero, but gets arbitrarily close to zero as x grows large without bound.
Also, here's the proper notation:
##\lfloor x \rfloor##
\lfloor x \rfloor

For the ceiling function, it is:
##\lceil x \rceil##
\lceil x \rceil
 
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1. What is the floor function and how is it used in evaluating limits?

The floor function, denoted as "⌊x⌋", is a mathematical function that rounds down a given number to the nearest integer. In evaluating limits, the floor function is used to determine the greatest integer that is less than or equal to the limit value. This can help simplify the limit expression and make it easier to evaluate.

2. Can the limit of a floor function be evaluated using the direct substitution method?

No, the direct substitution method cannot be used to evaluate the limit of a floor function. This is because the floor function is not continuous at integer values, and therefore, the limit at these points does not exist. Instead, other methods such as the squeeze theorem or the epsilon-delta definition of limits can be used to evaluate the limit of a floor function.

3. What are the common properties of limits of floor functions?

Some common properties of limits of floor functions include:

  • For any real number x, the limit of the floor function as x approaches x from the left is equal to the greatest integer less than or equal to x.
  • The limit of the floor function as x approaches a constant c from the right is equal to the greatest integer less than or equal to c.
  • For any real number x, the limit of the floor function as x approaches infinity is equal to infinity.

4. How can I determine if a limit involving a floor function exists?

To determine if a limit involving a floor function exists, you can use the squeeze theorem. If the limit of the function inside the floor function and the limit of the function itself are equal, then the limit of the floor function also exists and is equal to the same value. If the two limits are not equal, then the limit of the floor function does not exist.

5. Are there any real-world applications of evaluating limits of floor functions?

Yes, there are many real-world applications of evaluating limits of floor functions. Some examples include calculating the maximum weight a bridge can hold without collapsing, determining the maximum amount of people that can fit in a given space, and finding the maximum or minimum value of a function within a certain range.

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