Solving Linear Equations: Understanding Matrices and Equality"

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The discussion revolves around a system of linear equations represented by matrices, specifically examining the relationship between a matrix [A B B D] and a scalar or matrix [C]. Participants are exploring concepts related to matrix equality and eigenvalues within the context of linear algebra.

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  • Participants are questioning whether the equality of matrices can be treated similarly to algebraic expressions. There is a discussion about the nature of eigenvalues and their relevance to the problem. Some participants are attempting to derive the value of [C] based on the given matrix values and exploring the implications of the eigenvalue equation.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the relationship between matrices and eigenvalues. There are multiple interpretations being explored regarding the necessity of calculating eigenvalues in this context, and some guidance has been offered regarding the derivation of the eigenvalue equation from the matrix equation.

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Participants note that they have values for the matrix [A B B D] but lack information for other components, which is central to the discussion. The expectation to find [C] under these constraints is also highlighted.

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in this system of matrices, ignoring the N M matrix, is matrix [A B B D] equal to [C] given that the matrices represent a system of linear equations in the form Ax = b?

I'm just wanting to know whether it's like algebra, where you can divide both sides by the same thing and keep equality.

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Sounds to me it's something to do with eigenvalue thingy.

[C] might be a real value or scalar and [A B B D] is a matrix with 4 elements.

For example, [C], or simply C = 4, and [A B B D] = [4 0 0 4]. Also, [e k] = [1 2].

So, [C][e k] = 4 [1 2] = [4 8]
Also, [A B B D] [e k] = [4 8]

So, [C][e k] = [A B B D] [e k] = [4 8]
 
I have the values for the [A B B D] matrix, but not for anything else, and I'm expected to find [C].

How would I do that?
 
Ry122 said:
I have the values for the [A B B D] matrix, but not for anything else, and I'm expected to find [C].

How would I do that?

If your C is a real number, then you can find the value, or we call it the eigenvalue by solving
[tex]\left|A-\lambda I\right|=0[/tex], where A is the matrix [A B B D], [tex]\lambda[/tex] is the eigenvalue, or C in this case, and I is identity matrix. And |.| is the determinant.
 
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Is the eigenvalue in that equation you've given, the eigenvalue of matrix A?
 
Yes. that's correct. In particular, since your A is a 2x2 matrix, you will find 1 (repeated), or at most 2 eigenvalues.
 
Why is it that the eigenvalue needs to be calculated in this situation anyway?
Is it true for any system where the matrices are in the format
Ax=Bx
that the equation you gave above needs to be applied to find the unknown?
 
Ry122 said:
Why is it that the eigenvalue needs to be calculated in this situation anyway?
Is it true for any system where the matrices are in the format
Ax=Bx
that the equation you gave above needs to be applied to find the unknown?

The equation [tex]\left|A-\lambda I\right|=0[/tex] can actually be derived from [tex]Ax=Bx[/tex], where [tex]A[/tex] is a matrix, [tex]x[/tex] is column matrix and [tex]B[/tex] is a scalar value.

You see, from [tex]Ax=Bx[/tex], you will get [tex]Ax-Bx=0[/tex]. Factor out the [tex]x[/tex] ill give you [tex]x\left(A-BI\right)=0[/tex].

For the rest of the explanation, you can refer this article.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Characteristic_polynomial
 

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