Solving Logarithmic Equation: Log81x + logx3 = 2

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The discussion revolves around solving the logarithmic equation Log81x + logx3 = 2. Participants are exploring methods to simplify and solve the equation, particularly focusing on the change of base formula and its implications.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the change of base formula but struggles with simplification. Some participants suggest using the change of base first and then manipulating the equation. Others discuss the potential of rewriting 81 as 3^4 and the implications of this transformation.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering various suggestions and approaches. There is a focus on transforming the equation into a quadratic form after applying the change of base. Some guidance has been provided regarding the manipulation of logarithmic expressions, but no consensus has been reached on a definitive method.

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There is an indication of confusion regarding the application of the change of base formula and the subsequent steps to take. The discussion also touches on the importance of recognizing quadratic forms in logarithmic equations.

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The equation is the following:
Log81x + logx3 = 2

I've been bashing my head with change of base but i can't seem to get anywhere with it. 81 is rewritable as 34 which seems like it has something to do with the solution, but i just can't seem to get the hang of it. I always get stuck with logs on both sides of the equation and no way to simplify it further..
Any help?
Thanks
 
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Well the change of base formula is as follows: log_ab=\frac{log_cb}{log_ca} so really you don't even need to use the fact that 81=34, but you can. Use the change of base first and then see where you get.
 
yup using the change of base i got to: ln x/ln 81 + ln3/lnx = 2 but that's as far as i got. I tried simplifying them, getting a common denominator, bringing onto the other side but seems nothing that i do gets me to a solution
 
Sorry for the late reply, try multiplying through by log(x) and let log(x)=u
 
Do you mean after the change of base or through the original?
 
After the change of base, you'll have a quadratic in u to solve.

And by the way, since log_ab=c is equivalent to a^c=b then log_{a^n}b=c is equivalent to (a^n)^c=b or a^{nc}=b so you can change it into log_ab=nc. You can use this for 81=3^4
 
Mentallic said:
After the change of base, you'll have a quadratic in u to solve.

And by the way, since log_ab=c is equivalent to a^c=b then log_{a^n}b=c is equivalent to (a^n)^c=b or a^{nc}=b so you can change it into log_ab=nc. You can use this for 81=3^4

solved it using the quadratic equation and replacing ln x with U after the change of base, thanks for the help!
 
No problem :smile: And I'd suggest you try learn to solve them without using the change of variable, because this helps you notice when you have a quadratic in some function u=f(x). It will definitely come in handy.
 
Any suggestions about expanding
(1+ax)^3/2
for 5 non-zero terms?
using pascal's triangle I am gettin horrible exponents while if i rewrite it as (Root of [1+ax])^3 it doesn't look much better as i don't have two clear values to use in the formula :\
 
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uhm, might have solved it: does this look correct?
1+3/2 ax + 3/8 a^2x^2 - 1/16 a^3x^3 + 1/128 a^4x^4
 
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You should create a new thread so others can look at your question too, because I don't know how to answer it.
 

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