Solving Momentum and Kinetic Energy for 2 Blocks on Frictionless Track

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The problem involves two blocks sliding on a frictionless track, where one block is released from a height and collides with another block initially at rest. The discussion centers around calculating their speed after the collision and determining the energy lost during the collision.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the conservation of momentum and kinetic energy in the context of the collision. Some participants attempt to calculate the speed of the blocks after they start moving together, while others question the assumptions regarding the nature of the collision and the energy lost.

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There are various attempts to calculate the speed after the collision, with some participants expressing uncertainty about the energy lost. Guidance has been offered regarding the conservation of momentum and the implications of the blocks moving together.

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Participants are considering the effects of the collision and whether the blocks might behave differently under certain conditions, such as the presence of friction. There is a mention of the problem's constraints regarding the blocks moving together.

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Homework Statement


Two blocks are free to slide on a frictionless wooden track ABC shown in figure. The block of mass m1=5.00kg is released from A. The block of mass m2 = 10.0kg is initially at rest. The block of mass m1 collides with m2 and they start moving together.
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Homework Equations


What will be their speed after they started moving together? How much energy is lost as a result of the collision?


The Attempt at a Solution


I know we use the conservation of momentum ( m_1*v_1 = m_1*v_f + m_2*v_2). I also know that this is an elastic equation where we can use the equation for conservation of kinetic energy.
 
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so push forward, The curvature of the track simply converts the falling velocity, ie, if dropped out a window, to a horixontal one. Momentum is conserved. So things slow as you bang up. See what you can do in terms of actual numbers and eqns. No harm in being wrong, we can guide and you may learn a bunch in the process of being wrong. Personally I learn best that way
 
I think I figured out the speed after they started moving.
I used:
1/2*m_1*v_1^2 = m_1gh
v_1 = root(2*9.8*5.00)
v_1 = 9.90 m/s
v_1f = (m_1 -m_2) / (m_1 + m_2)
v_1f = -1/3 * 9.80
v_1f = -3.30 m/s

Is this right?

I'm not sure how to go about in solving the energy lost.
 
The first 3 eqns look good.The fourth depends on whether M1 bounces back., or the two masses congeal to form a body of m1+m2. The problem says they move together. so purely from conservation of mo, you can figure V2. a terrific extra credit question would be to figure out under ahat conditions M1 might recoil. Hint add friction.
 
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