Solving Momentum & Kinetic Energy Conservation: Lab Analysis

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The discussion revolves around a lab analysis of collisions, specifically examining the conservation of momentum and kinetic energy. Participants are considering how to approach calculations given specific mass and velocity values for two colliding objects.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to determine the conservation of kinetic energy and momentum using given mass and velocity data. They question whether to solve for kinetic energy before or after the collision and express confusion over differing results when comparing left-hand and right-hand sides of their equations.

Discussion Status

Some participants suggest starting with calculations directly, while others provide guidance on checking the equality of initial and final kinetic energy and momentum. There is an acknowledgment of potential discrepancies in results when equations are set equal to each other, indicating ongoing exploration of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the absence of unknowns and raise concerns about potential experimental error in the measured velocity and mass values, which may affect the analysis.

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I just did a lab on collisions. We used a something like an air hockey table but different. Anyways i have to determine whether or not momentum and kinetic energy are conserved.

If there are no unknowns and you have the following information how would you determine if kinetic energy and momentum are conserved.

Mass 1 = 0.541 kg, Mass 2 = 0.541 kg, Vi 1 = 0.33 m/s, Vi 2 = 0, Vf 1 = 0, Vf 2 = 0.3 m/s.

All i need to know is if i should solve for Ekbefore first and then Ekafter or should i do Ekbefore=Ekafter that way all the masses and 1/2's cancel out. So which way is right.
 
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I am not entirely sure about what you are trying to do (although my teacher will probably think i should be), but this looks like a fairly simple one to me. With simple question, the best thing to do usually is just starting to solve whatever you can. That should take less time than posting anything here.
 
But i have no unknowns. I have to determine LS=RS sort of. But when i solve the left separately and the right side i get one answer but when i make both equations equal each other i get a different answer. Which is right?
 
If this is a headon collision (no angle) then simply find the initial and final KE of each mass. If the total initial KE is equal to the total final KE then the KE is conserved. Same for momentum.
 
so i do this.

Ekbefore=Ekafter
1/2m(1)Vi(1)^2 + 1/2m(2)Vi(2)^2 = 1/2m(1)Vf(1)^2 + 1/2m(2)Vf(2)^2
0.33^2=0.3^2
0.1089=0.09

There LS=RS sort of. Is that how you do it.
 
Thats how you do it. That would mean that the KE isn't conserved. This is because that some of KE turns into heat energy during the collision and due to friction.
 
How did you get the velocities? If velocitiy values, and the mass values for that matter, were measured, their should be some experimental error to consider.

Regards
 

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