Solving Multivariable Domain: x^2+y^2<=|z^2|

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The discussion revolves around solving the domain defined by the inequality |x^2+y^2|<=|z^2|, specifically focusing on the implications of this inequality in a multivariable context.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss separating the inequality into two expressions: x^2+y^2<=z^2 and x^2+y^2>=-z^2. There is uncertainty regarding the interpretation of the second expression, particularly in relation to the geometric representation of z>=-sqrt(x^2+y^2).

Discussion Status

Some participants are exploring the implications of the inequalities and questioning the assumptions about the real numbers involved. There is an ongoing examination of the geometric interpretation of the solution set, particularly concerning the positive and negative cones.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the nature of the variables involved, specifically whether x, y, and z are real numbers, which influences their approach to the absolute value expressions.

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Homework Statement


I'm having a problem with solving the domain of |x^2+y^2|<=|z^2|.


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The Attempt at a Solution


From what I got this should be separated into two expressions:
x^2+y^2<=z^2, and x^2+y^2>=-z^2. The later doesn't have a real solution because of the negative root. The first one should then be z>=+-sqrt(x^2+y^2). I can understand that z>=+sqrt(x^2+y^2) is above the positive cone(inside), but where is z>=-sqrt(x^2+y^2) supposed to be? I'm thinking above the negative cone(outside), but I'm not sure.
 
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lukatwo said:

Homework Statement


I'm having a problem with solving the domain of |x^2+y^2|<=|z^2|.
x, y, and z are all real numbers, right?

If so, you can get rid of the absolute value symbols, since x2 + y2 ≥ 0 for any real numbers x and y. Similarly, z2 ≥ 0 for any real number z.
lukatwo said:

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


From what I got this should be separated into two expressions:
x^2+y^2<=z^2, and x^2+y^2>=-z^2. The later doesn't have a real solution because of the negative root. The first one should then be z>=+-sqrt(x^2+y^2). I can understand that z>=+sqrt(x^2+y^2) is above the positive cone(inside), but where is z>=-sqrt(x^2+y^2) supposed to be? I'm thinking above the negative cone(outside), but I'm not sure.
 
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Maybe should have put the part that was troubling me in the question.
I can understand that z>=+sqrt(x^2+y^2) is above the positive cone(inside), but where is z>=-sqrt(x^2+y^2) supposed to be? I'm thinking above the negative cone(outside), but I'm not sure.
So basically, where is z>=-sqrt(x^2+y^2) supposed to be?
 
If you strip out the unnecessary stuff, your inequality is x2 + y2 ≤ z2.

First off, look at the equation x2 + y2 = z2. This is part of your solution set. What does it look like?

Once you have that, then tackle the rest, which is x2 + y2 < z2. The absolute smallest that x2 + y2 can be is 0.
 

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