Solving Newton's 2nd Law: 5kg Mass, 60N Tension

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The problem involves two buckets of nails, each with a mass of 5 kg, being pulled upward by a rope with a tension of 60 N. The objective is to calculate the acceleration of the buckets while considering the forces acting on them.

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  • Participants discuss the implications of the tension in the rope and how it relates to the acceleration of both buckets. There is a question about whether to consider the total mass of both buckets or just one when calculating acceleration.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of free body diagrams and the relationship between the buckets' masses and the tension in the rope.

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There is uncertainty regarding the mass of the top bucket and whether it can be treated the same as the bottom bucket in calculations. Participants are also considering the effects of different masses on the overall acceleration.

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Homework Statement


Two buckets of nails are hung on above the other and are pulled up to a roof by a rope. Each bucket has a mass of 5.0 kg. The tension in the rope connecting the buckets is 60 N. Calculate the acceleration of the buckets.


Homework Equations


F = ma


The Attempt at a Solution


Here is my work:
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/3691/fbd2ke5.jpg​

I got the answer right, but I don't know why mass is equal to 5kg. Shouldn't it be equal to 10kg, because there are two masses of 5kg?
 
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The ropes are attached together so they are going to accelerate at the same rate. It looks like what you did up there is find the acceleration for the lower bucket. 60N is the tension in the rope connecting the buckets, but not the force the top bucket is being pulled up with, since some force will accelerate the top bucket, and then what's leftover will go into the rope. So, the work you have there is essentially finding the acceleration for the lower bucket, but this is ok, since the buckets are going to accelerate at the same rate.
 
But if the top bucket is a different mass than 5 kg, could I still use the same procedure that I used in this question, to find the acceleration of the buckets? Also, do I need to use both masses in my calculation when solving for acceleration?
 
Can someone help me some more on this question please?
 
temaire said:
But if the top bucket is a different mass than 5 kg, could I still use the same procedure that I used in this question, to find the acceleration of the buckets?
yes
Also, do I need to use both masses in my calculation when solving for acceleration?
If you look at the bottom bucket only in a free body diagram, as you have done, and as GO1 has noted, you get the acceleration without having to look at both buckets togeteher. Once you determine that acceleration, you can find the force in the upper rope, if you wish, using both masses together in your FBD.
 
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