Tension on a rope between two objects with different mass

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The problem involves two blocks of different masses connected by a rope, with an external force applied to one of the blocks. The objective is to determine the tension in the rope between the two blocks, considering there is no friction.

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  • Participants discuss the acceleration of both blocks and how it relates to the applied force. There are attempts to calculate the tension based on different interpretations of the forces acting on the system. Questions arise about the relationship between the blocks' masses and the tension in the rope.

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There is ongoing exploration of the problem, with participants providing feedback on each other's reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding the calculation of common acceleration and its implications for tension. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being considered.

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Participants mention the absence of friction and the importance of considering the total mass of the system when calculating acceleration. There is also a note about significant figures in the final answer.

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Homework Statement


A 3kg block is connected to a 5kg block by a rope. A second rope is attached to the 5kg block and is being pulled by someone with a force of 11N. What is the tension on the rope between the two blocks? No friction

Homework Equations


F=ma[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution


So I calculated the acceleration for the 5kg block with the 11N and it was 2.2m/s^2. I assumed that since the 5kg block is accelerating at 2.2m/s^2, the 3kg block must be accelerating at the same value. So then I did, F=ma,
F=(3kg)(2.2m/s^2)= 6.6N. So the tension on the rope between the two objects is 6.6N. Did I do this right? I don't have the solutions for this. Thank you!
 
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No, not right. You are right that the acceleration of both blocks is the same. But then the acceleration would be that which is produced by an 11N force acting on the combination of the two blocks.
 
Dick said:
No, not right. You are right that the acceleration of both blocks is the same. But then the acceleration would be that which is produced by an 11N force acting on the combination of the two blocks.
Ok so you know how if you drop two objects with different masses, they would fall at the same time in a system with no friction or anything... because gravity is constant. Is this question kind of like that in a way? Would the tension between the two objects be 11N?
 
siumbaim said:
Ok so you know how if you drop two objects with different masses, they would fall at the same time in a system with no friction or anything... because gravity is constant. Is this question kind of like that in a way? Would the tension between the two objects be 11N?

No, the 11N force is acting on a system with a total mass of the sum of both masses. What's the common acceleration of the two masses?
 
Dick said:
No, the 11N force is acting on a system with a total mass of the sum of both masses. What's the common acceleration of the two masses?
common acceleration is a=(11N)/(8kg)=1.375m/s^2. Soooooo F=(1.375m/s^2)(3kg) =4.125N? Is that the answer?
 
siumbaim said:
common acceleration is a=(11N)/(8kg)=1.375m/s^2. Soooooo F=(1.375m/s^2)(3kg) =4.125N? Is that the answer?

Right. The only force acting on the 3kg block is the tension in the rope. So that must be the tension.
 
Dick said:
Right. The only force acting on the 3kg block is the tension in the rope. So that must be the tension.
THANKS!
 
Used this as a reference for my AP Physics homework, helped a lot. Thanks guys
 
siumbaim said:
4.125N?
Yes, except that you could lose marks for quoting too many significant figures.
 
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It might have helped a little on this problem if you had drawn some free body diagrams. You know what free body diagrams are, correct?
 

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