Solving Polar Equation r = θ + sin(2θ) for x = -2: Homework Problem

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The problem involves solving the polar equation r = θ + sin(2θ) for the angle θ corresponding to the point on the curve when x = -2. Participants are exploring the relationship between polar coordinates and Cartesian coordinates in this context.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss converting the polar equation and the condition x = -2 into a solvable form. Some suggest using the relationship x = r cos(θ) to derive equations that can be solved for θ. Others mention the need for numerical solutions and iterative methods.

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The discussion is active, with various approaches being proposed, including numerical methods and iterative techniques. Some participants have shared their calculations and initial guesses for θ, indicating a collaborative effort to explore potential solutions.

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Participants note the importance of working in radians and the necessity of having an initial guess for iterative methods. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity involved in finding θ, with some expressing uncertainty about the next steps.

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Using this polar equation:

[tex]r = \theta + sin(2\theta)[/tex]

Find the angle [tex]\theta[/tex] that relates to the point on the curve when x = -2


I'm not sure where to start...but my guess is to convert the equation to another form...any help is appreciated.
 
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Use [tex]x=r\cos\theta[/tex], you know that theta has to be in the range to make cos theta negative, so I might write:

[tex] \frac{-2}{\cos\theta}=\theta +\sin (2\theta )[/tex]

and look for a possible numerical solution.
 
Don't convert the equation, convert the condition. [itex]x= r cos(\theta)[/itex] so the condition that x= -2 becomes [itex]rcos(\theta)= -2[/itex]. Since on this curve, [itex]r= \theta+ sin(2\theta)[/itex] you want to solve [itex](\theta+ sin(2\theta))cos(\theta)= -2[/itex].
 
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x=r·cos(θ), so if x=2, r=2/cos(θ)

That leaves you to solve: 2/cos(θ) = θ + sin(2θ) for θ.

Looks like a numerical solution.
 
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x=r·cos(θ), so if x=2, r=2/cos(θ)

That leaves you to solve: 2/cos(θ) = θ + sin(2θ) for θ.

Looks like a numerical solution.

yes, this is what I initially had...[tex]\theta + sin2\theta = \frac{-2}{cos\theta}[/tex]

but got stuck on finding [tex]\theta[/tex]
 
Use Newton Raphson method. if you have an equation to solve [tex]f(\theta )=0[/tex] then to iterate to a solution use the process:

[tex] \theta_{n+1}=\theta_{n}-\frac{f(\theta_{n})}{f'(\theta_{n})}[/tex]

You have to have an initial stating guess mind you, and you have to work in radians. I would start with an initial guess of [tex]\pi /2[/tex]
 
Having done the calculation myself (just out of interest), the iteration process out should use is:

[tex] \theta_{n+1}=\theta_{n}-\frac{\theta_{n}\cos\theta_{n} +\sin 2\theta_{n}\cos\theta_{n}+2}{\cos\theta_{n} (1+2\cos 2\theta_{n} )-\sin\theta_{n} (\theta_{n} +\sin 2\theta_{n} ))}[/tex]

After about 3 iterations it settled down to the value of [tex]\theta =2.7861[/tex] radians.
 

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