Solving Recursive Sequence Homework

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The problem involves a recursive sequence defined by specific initial conditions and a recurrence relation. The main question is whether there exists an integer \( k \geq 2 \) such that \( a_{k+1}^2 \) is divisible by \( a_k \).

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the implications of the recursion formula and explore the divisibility condition. Some suggest examining the structure of the terms generated by the recursion, while others propose using induction or modular arithmetic to analyze the sequence further.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering various insights and approaches. Some have attempted to manipulate the terms of the sequence to assess divisibility, while others are considering the implications of prime factors in the context of the problem.

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There are indications of formatting issues with the mathematical expressions, which may affect clarity. Additionally, the original poster's intent to prove or disprove the existence of such an integer \( k \) is central to the discussion.

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Homework Statement


Sequence of integers a1, a2, a3, . . . is fixed by:
a1 =1,
a2 =2,
[tex]a_{n}={3a}_{n-1}+5a_{n-2}[/tex] for n=3,4,5, . . . .
Decide if exisist such an integer k[tex]\geq[/tex]2, that [tex]{a}_{k+1}\bullet {a}_{k+1}[/tex] is divisible by [tex]{a}_{k}.[/tex]


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don't care about latex error.
 
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I edited to try to correct the Latex and accidently deleted the entire thread. Sorry about that. I don't know why the
[tex]a_n= 3a_{n-1}+ 5a_{n-2}[/tex]
still won't come out properly.
To make up for that, I'll try to help with the question!

Before you can prove anything, you need to decide if it is true or false! The question asks b if there exist an integer larger than 1 such that [itex]a_{k+1}^2[/itex] is divisible by a_k.

From the recursion formula, [itex]a_{k+1}= 3a_k+ 5a_{k-1}[/itex].
[itex](a_{k+1})^2= 9a_k^2+ 30a_ka_{k-1}+ 25a_{k-1}[/itex]
Since the first two terms are obviously divisble by [itex]a_k[/itex], the whole thing is if and only if [itex]25a_{k-1}^2[/itex] is divisible by a_k.

That's as far as I can get. Don't know if it helps.
 
Find a summation then use induction^^
 
Notice that if [tex]a_{k+1}^2[/tex] is divisible by [tex]a_k[/tex] then there is a prime [tex]p[/tex] such that both [tex]a_{k+1}[/tex] and [tex]a_k[/tex] are divisible by [tex]p[/tex]. in other words
[tex]a_{k+1} = 0[/tex] modulo [tex]p[/tex]
[tex]a_k = 0[/tex] modulo [tex]p[/tex].

for a fixed prime [tex]q[/tex] define the sequence of integers [tex]b_1,b_2, \dots[/tex] by:
[tex]b_{1} = 1[/tex]

[tex]b_{2} = 2[/tex]

[tex]b_{n} = 3 b_{n-1} + 5 b_{n-2}[/tex] modulo [tex]q[/tex]

Show: there is no integer k>=2 such that both [tex]b_k[/tex] and [tex]b_{k+1}[/tex] are 0.
 

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