Solving Second-Harmonic Generation Phase Mismatch - Exact Solution?

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The discussion revolves around the search for an exact solution to the nonlinear system describing second-harmonic generation, specifically focusing on the equations governing the dynamics of complex variables A and B. Participants explore the complexity of the problem, propose specific cases, and challenge earlier claims regarding known solutions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the existence of an exact solution for the nonlinear system related to second-harmonic generation, expressing difficulty in finding references.
  • Another participant suggests that the question may be more complicated than initially perceived.
  • A request for clarification on the specific nonlinear system is made, emphasizing the need for equations or additional context.
  • The nonlinear system is presented as: idA/dt = B.B.exp(i.s.t) and idB/dt = B*.A.exp(-i.s.t), with B and A being complex variables.
  • A participant mentions a known solution for the case when s=0, identifying B(t) = tanh(t) and A(t) = i.sech(t), but expresses uncertainty about the general case.
  • Another participant proposes that for very small s (0 < s << 1), an analytical solution may be obtainable by expanding the exponential function.
  • Concerns are raised regarding the validity of the previously mentioned solutions, suggesting that they may not satisfy the original system when s=0.
  • A further analysis is presented, indicating that if s=0, the equations can be manipulated to yield a relationship between A and B, leading to a different form of the equations that does not align with the earlier claimed solutions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the validity of the proposed solutions for the case when s=0, and there is no consensus on the existence of an exact solution for the general case. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the correct approach to finding solutions for the nonlinear system.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity of the nonlinear system and the potential for different behaviors under varying conditions of the parameter s. The discussion highlights the need for careful consideration of assumptions and definitions when analyzing the equations.

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Hi All,
I was searching in the net if the exact solution of the nonlinear system describing the second harmonic generation does exist, but I found nothing.
Does some one know about such solution and if yes can you give references? Thanks
 
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Well it seems that my question is very difficult …..
 


I suspect that you don't realize how complicated the answer is!
 


You haven't told us what nonlinear system you are asking about.

Post some equations, or a web link. Then you might get some answers.
 


Ok, here is the nonlinear system that I want to solve

idA/dt=B.B.exp(i.s.t)

idB/dt=B*.A.exp(-i.s.t)

where B(t),A(t),s=constant but B and A are complex (B* means complex conjugation of B in the above equation)
 
Nonlinear differential equation can, what are the solutions of this one?

Hi all,
I am searching for the solutions of the following nonlinear system:

idA/dt=B.B.exp(i.s.t)

idB/dt=B*.A.exp(-i.s.t)

where B(t),A(t),s=constant but B and A are complex (B* means complex conjugation of B in the above equation). Does some one know its solutions?
I know the solution in case when s=0 then B(t)=tanh(t); A(t)=i.sech(t), but I do not know the more general case. Can you help me?
Thanks
 


What about is s is very small? I.e. when 0&lt;s\ll 1, you can get an analytical solution then, by expanding the exponential as \exp (x)=1+x.

Mat
 


It seems to me that something is wrong here. Your B(t)=tanh(t); A(t)=i.sech(t) is not a solution to your system when s=0. Or I misunderstand your notations.
 


I didn't check this, if s=0, then you can divide the equations to find:
<br /> \frac{dB}{dA}= \frac{A}{B}<br />
Which integrates to A=kB, where k>0 is the integration constant, substuting this into the second equation shows that:
<br /> i\frac{dB}{dt}=kB^{2}<br />
Which certainly doesn't give the solution that you have.
 

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