Solving Simple Truss Problems: Identifying Compression & Tension

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The discussion revolves around identifying whether members of a simple truss are in tension or compression without performing calculations. Participants explore methods of visual inspection and practical examples to illustrate their points, focusing on both simple and more complex truss structures.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that it is not always possible to determine tension or compression by inspection alone, particularly in more complex truss configurations.
  • One participant proposes a practical example using popsicle sticks to illustrate how to identify tension and compression based on the direction of forces applied to the structure.
  • Another participant expresses confusion about how to identify compressive members and seeks clarification on the concept.
  • There is a suggestion that while simple cases can be analyzed visually, more complicated trusses require the use of methods such as the method of joints or sections for accurate analysis.
  • Some participants acknowledge that visual checks can be applied to simple cases but emphasize the need for calculations in more complex scenarios.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that visual inspection can be useful for simple truss problems, but there is no consensus on the effectiveness of this method for more complex structures. Multiple views on the necessity of calculations for complicated trusses remain present.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on the simplicity of the truss structure for visual identification of forces and the unresolved nature of how to approach more complex configurations without calculations.

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I wonder how to determine a member is in tension or compression without calculation.
For the above video starting at 3:03, how to idenfify the last 2 members are in compression and tension respectively.
Hope some more examples and diagrams to illustrate.
Thanks a lot.
 
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You can't always tell by inspection, but in this simple case, does the leg on the right get pushed down or pulled up when the load is applied as shown? How about what happens to the other leg?
 
PhanthomJay said:
You can't always tell by inspection, but in this simple case, does the leg on the right get pushed down or pulled up when the load is applied as shown? How about what happens to the other leg?
I'm sorry I can't get what you mean. How does the compressive member come?
 
Dave1357 said:
I'm sorry I can't get what you mean. How does the compressive member come?
Compressive forces are 'pushing' forces and tensile forces are 'pulling' forces. Take 2 popsicle sticks and fasten them at one end in the shape of the upside down V as in your problem ( ^ ). Set the legs on a table and apply the rightward horizontal force at the top. One of the legs will pull off the table, while the other leg will push on the table. Which is which? The one that pulls would be in tension if anchored to the table, and the one that pushes will be in compression.
 
PhanthomJay said:
Compressive forces are 'pushing' forces and tensile forces are 'pulling' forces. Take 2 popsicle sticks and fasten them at one end in the shape of the upside down V as in your problem ( ^ ). Set the legs on a table and apply the rightward horizontal force at the top. One of the legs will pull off the table, while the other leg will push on the table. Which is which? The one that pulls would be in tension if anchored to the table, and the one that pushes will be in compression.
Oh, I understand. Thanks a lot !
So, this kind of checking can only be applied on simple case like the above, right?
If there are complicated trusses, we must use method of joint/section to calculate.
 
Dave1357 said:
Oh, I understand. Thanks a lot !
So, this kind of checking can only be applied on simple case like the above, right?
If there are complicated trusses, we must use method of joint/section to calculate.
They can be a bit more complex, but, yes, that is best. Try to visualize when you can, then run the numbers.
 

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