Solving sin2x-tan2x=-2(sinx)^2(tan2x) | Proving Identity Step by Step

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The discussion revolves around proving the trigonometric identity sin2x - tan2x = -2(sinx)^2(tan2x). Participants are exploring various approaches to manipulate the equation and clarify their understanding of trigonometric identities.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss rewriting tan2x in terms of sine and cosine and explore the implications of substituting expressions for cos2x. There are expressions of frustration regarding the complexity of identities and the trial-and-error nature of the process.

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Some participants have made progress in their attempts, with one noting a specific substitution that leads to a simplified form. Others express their struggles with the topic, while appreciating the collaborative nature of the discussion that avoids simply providing answers.

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There is mention of homework constraints and the emotional challenges faced by participants when dealing with trigonometric identities. Some participants reflect on their learning experiences and the iterative nature of mastering these concepts.

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Homework Statement



sin2x-tan2x=-2(sinx)^2(tan2x)

2. The attempt at a solution

I have like two pages of attempts, but I don't know if it would be useful to copy it into the forum. :|
 
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[tex]\tan 2x = \frac{\sin 2x}{\cos 2x}[/tex]
[tex]\cos 2x = \cos^2x-\sin^2x[/tex]
[tex]1=\sin^2x+\cos^2x[/tex]
That is all you need to know.
 
Hint #1: I would start on the left side and rewrite tan 2x in terms of sine and cosine.
Hint #2: Near the end, you should have tan 2x (cos 2x - 1). Look at the formula for cos 2x and you can see cos 2x - 1 will equal to.
 
Okay, I got to tan2x(cos2x -1). :)

I sub'd cos2x -1 = -(sinx)^2

And I'm left with tan2x - (sinx)^2.

edit: oh no wait! I got it! Thanks!
 
I hate identities. They make me feel so stupid. How did you guys do it so fast? How did you know you had to start on the left side? Trig. identities feels like just a bunch of trial & error (I hate that).

edit: By the way, I like how you guys didn't just give me the answer. It feels to good to actually finish do an identity problem for once. :D
 
For homework: Solve [tex]\tan x + \tan 2x + \tan 3x = 0[/tex] :)
 
Karamata said:
For homework: Solve [tex]\tan x + \tan 2x + \tan 3x = 0[/tex] :)

Hmm... I'm trying it, and it seems really complicated. Can you just tell me if I'm on the right track by doing:

[itex]tan2x=\frac { 2tanx }{ 1-{ tan }^{ 2 }x }[/itex]

and

[itex]tan2x=\frac { \frac { 2tanx }{ 1-{ tan }^{ 2 }x } +tanx }{ 1-\frac { 2{ tan }^{ 2 }x }{ 1-{ tan }^{ 2 }x } }[/itex]
 
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It seems well.
Also, you can solve using: [tex]\frac{\sin x}{\cos x} + \frac{\sin {2x}}{\cos {2x}} = -\frac{\sin {3x}}{\cos {3x}}[/tex] (but, this is harder way I think)
 
tahayassen said:
I hate identities. They make me feel so stupid. How did you guys do it so fast? How did you know you had to start on the left side? Trig. identities feels like just a bunch of trial & error (I hate that).
Proving trig identities does take trial & error a lot of the time. For me it took a lot of practice to get the hang of it. You'll start recognizing the different variants of the identities, like the one I suggested for cos 2x (cos2x -1 = -sin2 x). Now that I teach precalculus at a high school, I subject my own students every year to the same torture of proving identities. :smile:
 

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