Solving Summation Problem: 1/1! + 2/2! + 3/3! + 4/4!...

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The discussion revolves around the summation of the series \( \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{n}{n!} \), exploring whether it converges or diverges, and how to evaluate it. Participants are sharing their thoughts on the convergence of the series, potential methods for solving it, and connections to the Taylor series of the exponential function.

Discussion Character

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  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the convergence of the series and proposes that it converges, suggesting a limit of \( \lim_{n \to \infty} \frac{1}{(n-1)!} \).
  • Another participant introduces the Taylor series of the exponential function as a relevant concept for evaluating the series.
  • Some participants note that the series can be rewritten as \( \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} \frac{n}{n!} = \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{1}{(n-1)!} \), indicating a correct formulation but expressing uncertainty about how to solve it.
  • There is a suggestion to use Z-transform as a potential method for solving the series.
  • One participant emphasizes that the sum should start at \( n=1 \) rather than \( n=0 \), while another argues that it does not matter since \( n!=1 \) when \( n=0 \) in the first summation.
  • A later reply states that the answer to the summation is \( e \), but this is not universally accepted as a conclusion within the discussion.
  • Another participant mentions that the Taylor series expansion can also be used to find \( e^{\pi i} + 1 \), suggesting alternative connections to the topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the series converges, but there is no consensus on the method to evaluate it or the starting index of the summation. Multiple competing views on the approach to solving the problem remain.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference the Taylor series expansion for \( e^x \) as a helpful tool, but the discussion does not resolve the specific steps needed to evaluate the summation or clarify the implications of starting the summation at different indices.

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Hello, i have been trying to solve a summation question for a while, and I'm not too much of an expert at the subject, so i couldn't figure it out. it is the sum of n/n! in which n takes the value from one to infinity. In other words, just 1/1! + 2/2! + 3/3! + 4/4!...

Well, firstly, does the series diverge or converge? i think it converges and has a limit. In the end i came up with this


lim 1/((n-1)!)
n->infin

PS Could someone tell me how to write limits here?
 
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Hi Ashwin Kumar! :smile:

Limit can be written as \lim_{n\rightarrow +\infty}{ ... } between [ itex ] and [ /itex] tags (without spaces).

Anyway, do you know the Taylor series of the exponential function?
 
\sum_{n=0}^\infty \frac{n}{n!}=\sum_{n=1}^\infty\frac{1}{(n-1)!}
Gives:
<br /> \sum_{n=0}^\infty \frac{n}{n!}=\sum_{n=1}^\infty\frac{1}{(n-1)!}<br />
when used with tex, use the advance button to see all math things you can do

So far it is correct and it does converge, how to solve it I don't know. Maybe use Z-transform to solve it.

Also (n-1)!=\prod_{k=1}^{n-1}k might help
 
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Jaynte said:
\sum_{n=0}^\infty \frac{n}{n!}=\sum_{n=0}^\infty\frac{1}{(n-1)!}
Gives:
<br /> \sum_{n=0}^\infty \frac{n}{n!}=\sum_{n=0}^\infty\frac{1}{(n-1)!}<br />
when used with tex, use the advance button to see all math things you can do

So far it is correct and it does converge, how to solve it I don't know. Maybe use Z-transform to solve it.

Also (n-1)!=\prod_{k=1}^{n-1}k might help

The sum should start at n=1, not n=0. The sum is also quite easy, once you recognize it. As micromass suggested, taking a look at the Taylor series expansion for e^x is quite helpful.
 
Mute said:
The sum should start at n=1, not n=0. The sum is also quite easy, once you recognize it. As micromass suggested, taking a look at the Taylor series expansion for e^x is quite helpful.

it doesn't matter if n starts at 0 since n!=1 when n=0 in the first summation, but it should be n=1 in the other summation
 
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Ok i'll take a look at the taylor series expansion
 
Ashwin_Kumar said:
Hello, i have been trying to solve a summation question for a while, and I'm not too much of an expert at the subject, so i couldn't figure it out. it is the sum of n/n! in which n takes the value from one to infinity. In other words, just 1/1! + 2/2! + 3/3! + 4/4!...

Well, firstly, does the series diverge or converge? i think it converges and has a limit. In the end i came up with this


lim 1/((n-1)!)
n->infin

PS Could someone tell me how to write limits here?

The answer is e.
 
you simply need the e^x expansion (this is also a way to find e to the power of pi i +1but sin x+i cos x is more useful since the sine disapears and the i cos x is -1.).
 

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