Sum of Series 1/n: Is it Infinity?

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The discussion revolves around the convergence or divergence of the series defined by the terms 1/n and n/n^n as n approaches infinity. Participants explore the implications of these series, particularly focusing on whether the latter series converges to a finite value or diverges to infinity.

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  • Some participants assert that the sum of 1/n from 1 to infinity diverges to infinity, while questioning the behavior of the series n/n^n.
  • There is clarification regarding the notation and terms used in the series, with some participants correcting others on the interpretation of n/n^n.
  • One participant suggests that the series n/n^n converges, referencing the behavior of terms in relation to geometric series.
  • Another participant introduces comparisons to other series, such as 1/n^2 and 1/(n log(n)), to explore the boundaries of convergence and divergence.
  • There is confusion about whether different expressions for the series are equivalent, with participants debating the implications of their mathematical representations.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on whether the series n/n^n converges or diverges, and there are multiple competing views on the interpretation of the series and its terms.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the definitions and conditions under which the series converge or diverge, highlighting the need for careful consideration of the terms involved.

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I've seen the proof that the sum of 1/n for = 1 to infinity is infinity (which still blows my mind a little).

Is the sum of 1/nn for n = 1 to infinity also infinity?

i.e, 1 + 2/4 + 3/27 + 4/256+...
 
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I don't think you mean ##n^n## where ##n=1## right?

also your series should read ##1 + 1/4 + 1/27 ... ##?
 
After the first two elements it is smaller than the sum over ##\displaystyle \frac{1}{2^n}## where you can find the sum directly.

If you want to explore the region between divergence and convergence more, have a look at ##\displaystyle \frac{1}{n^2}## and ##\displaystyle \frac{1}{n \log(n)}## and ##\displaystyle \frac{1}{n \log(n)^2}##and ##\displaystyle \frac{1}{n \log(n) \log(log(n))}##. These will need some clever tricks to determine if they converge.
 
oops, yes, thanks, I meant the sum of n/nn for n = 1 to infinity

So... it's < 2?
 
##\frac{n}{n^n}##? That is equal to ##\frac{1}{n^{n-1}}##
Chris Miller said:
So... it's < 2?
It is.
 
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Chris Miller said:
I've seen the proof that the sum of 1/n for = 1 to infinity is infinity (which still blows my mind a little).

Is the sum of 1/nn for n = 1 to infinity also infinity?

i.e, 1 + 2/4 + 3/27 + 4/256+...

the sum of ak converges for a<1 for k=1 to inf - this is just a geometric series and the sum is 1/(1-a)

so by that 1/nn converges for n=1 to inf as 1/nn becomes smaller than any constant ak
 
mfb said:
##\frac{n}{n^n}##? That is equal to ##\frac{1}{n^{n-1}}##It is.
He meant \sum\limits_{n\to\infty} \,\, \frac{n}{n^n}.
 
Matt Benesi said:
He meant \sum\limits_{n\to\infty} \,\, \frac{n}{n^n}.
Same thing?
 
Chris Miller said:
Same thing?
Unless you guys are mind readers, and meant \sum\limits_{n\to\infty} \,\, \frac{n}{n^n} = \sum\limits_{n\to\infty} \,\, \frac{1}{n^{n-1}} by what you said, \frac{n}{n^n}\, =\, \frac{1}{n^{n-1}} is different from the sum.
 

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