Solving Tension in Wires for Fixed Plate

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The problem involves a plate fixed to the ceiling by two wires and to the wall by a single wire, which is cut. The objective is to calculate the tension in the two remaining wires, given the mass of the plate and gravitational acceleration.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive the tensions in the wires using equations related to forces and accelerations. Some participants suggest considering the dynamic forces acting on the plate and question the implications of the plate's potential rotation.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes attempts to calculate individual wire tensions, with some guidance provided on considering static and dynamic forces. There is an ongoing exploration of the signs of the accelerations and their physical meaning, particularly regarding the direction of the plate's acceleration.

Contextual Notes

Participants are discussing the implications of cutting the wall wire and the resulting forces on the remaining wires, as well as the assumptions made about the plate's motion and acceleration directions.

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Homework Statement


A plate is fixed to the ceiling by two wires and to the wall by a single wire.
The wall wire is cut. Calculate the tension in the two remaining wires.

mass = 800 kg
g = 10m/s²
Dimensions in sketch

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


Equations:
Ra*cos30 + Rb*cos30 = m*g + m*av
Ra*sin30 + Rb*sin30 = -m*ah
ah*sin30/cos30 = av

Solve to:
(Ra+Rb)=6928N
ah=-4.33m/s²
av=-2.5m/s²

But now I'm having troubles getting the individual wire tensions.
Any help is welcome.

Thank you.
 

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You know the force of gravity acting on this plate, and you have calculated the horizontal and vertical accelerations the plate experiences when the horizontal string is cut.

The tensions in the vertical wires will be a combination of the static and dynamic forces acting on the plate. You can assume these forces act thru the center of gravity of the plate, the location of which is indicated in the sketch.

To calculate the dynamic forces: (Hint: F = ma)
 
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I'll offer a different hint: will the plate rotate?
 
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Thanks for the quick reply!
so i solved it to:
Ra= 1826N
Rb= 5102N

What i still don't get though is why av is negative?
I would expect the plate to have a downward acceleration with the same sign as gravity acc.
But now i solved it by having an upward acceleration.
 

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