Solving the Equation for Bacterial Growth in Experimentation

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The discussion revolves around a differential equation modeling bacterial growth, where the growth rate is proportional to the current population but is also subject to a constant reduction rate. Participants are exploring the formulation and solution of this equation.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to establish the correct form of the differential equation and questions whether their formulation is accurate. Others suggest separating variables for integration and inquire about the implications of the assumption that KN > R.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing their attempts at integration and discussing the relationship between the derived equations and the textbook solution. There is a recognition of the need for limits in the integration process, with some participants reflecting on the differences between this scenario and simpler cases.

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Participants reference a specific textbook problem, indicating a structured context for their discussion. The presence of a reduction rate R introduces complexity that is being examined in relation to previous simpler models.

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Homework Statement


The growth of bacteria is proportional to the number present but is being reduced at a constant rate for experimentation. Find the equation for N


Homework Equations



d(N)/dt = KN-R , N = number of bacteria, K = proportionality const., R = reduction rate.

The Attempt at a Solution



Above was my guess to what the differential equation should look like...it's a separable equation. My question: Is the above formula the right formula based on my understanding of the question? With that equation I can't seem to solve it.
 
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Seems reasonable. Try doing the regular thing, which is to separate t and N to different sides of the equation like this

\frac{dN}{KN-R} = dt

and then integrate. You also need to assume that KN>R. What does this mean?
 
I tried that but I just can't seem to get it right. I don't get the same solution as the book. By the way the question is No. 22 of Section 2 in Chapter 8 of Boas' Math Methods for those that have the book.

I integrate those and get,

(1/K)*ln(KN-R) = t + ln(C) , C is the initial number of bacteria...I put in ln(C) for simplification.
 
Okay, so you have ln(KN- R)= KT+ Kln(C) and from that KN-R= (Ce^K) e^{KT}. KN= R+ (Ce^K)e^{KT} and, finally, N= R/K+ (Ce^K/K)e^{KT}. What is the answer in the book?
 
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The answer in the book is,

N = Ce^{Kt} - (R/K)(e^{Kt}-1)
 
So, how do you solve the DE?

\int_{N(t_0)}^{N(t)} \frac{dN}{KN-R} = \int_{t_0}^t dt

where t_0 is arbitrary (choose zero)
 
Thanks, I just got it. Can you tell me why I needed the limits? The other one before this didn't have the R (reduction) so the equation was just

N = N_0e^{Kt}

When I was solving that I didn't need limits.
 
The limits contain the constant of integration in a more transparent way; you don't need to be guessing the correct forms. You could have just as well derived the case R=0 with the limits, probably with less work too.
 

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