Solving the Hinged Stick Problem for Time-Based Angular Acceleration/Speed

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a hinged meter stick that rotates about one end, exploring the relationship between angular acceleration, angular speed, and time. The original poster describes the setup and poses a question regarding the analytical solution for angular speed or acceleration as a function of time.

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  • The original poster attempts to derive angular acceleration and speed as functions of time, referencing energy considerations. Some participants question the complexity of the resulting integral after substituting variables, while others suggest alternative trigonometric identities to simplify the expression.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different mathematical approaches and questioning the solvability of the integral derived from the original poster's equations. No consensus has been reached, but there is active engagement with the problem.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of integral calculus in the context of angular motion, with some expressing uncertainty about the availability of solutions in integral tables. The original poster's assumptions about the system's initial conditions are also under examination.

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A popular demonstration related to torque and angular acceleration involves a hinged meter stick, where one end is free to rotate while the other end serves as a rotation axis. Towards the end of the board, you might find a ball sitting on a golf tee and at the edge, there is usually a cup nailed to the free end. As the stick falls, its free end accelerates faster than gravity. Eventually the ball lands in the cup, even though the cup is initially at higher elevation.
Assume that the stick is initially vertical and θ represents the vertical angle between the normal and the current position of the stick. The stick has mass M and length L.

Question: I can solve for the angular acceleration and angular speed as a function of angle. Is there an analytical solution to the angular speed or angular acceleration as a function of time?
 
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w = d(theta)/dt. So you got the relation between the two. That is enough.
 
It is not quite that simple. After substituting w = d(theta)/dt, you get an integral that is not listed in any integral table that I have found:

Start with w = sqrt(3g[1-cos(theta)]/L) from energy considerations

After the substitution, you get the integral of [1-cos(theta)]^(-1/2)d(theta). Is this solvable?
 
1-cos theta =(sin theta/2)^2
 

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