Solving the Intersecting Roads Problem

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The problem involves two cars approaching an intersection from perpendicular roads, with given speeds and distances from the intersection. The objective is to determine the rate at which the distance between the two cars is changing at a specific moment.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the need for a geometric representation and suggest using the Pythagorean theorem to relate the distances of the cars to the distance between them. There is an exploration of differentiating the distance formula with respect to time and applying the chain rule. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of negative speeds and the implications for the rate of distance change.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, providing insights into the mathematical relationships involved. Some have offered guidance on differentiation and the use of the chain rule, while others are questioning the signs of the rates of change. There is no explicit consensus on the final answer, but there is a productive exploration of the concepts involved.

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Participants note the importance of understanding the rates at which the distances are changing, as well as the implications of negative values for the speeds of the cars. The discussion reflects a focus on the mathematical interpretation of the problem rather than a straightforward solution.

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Homework Statement



hi there.. can someone just give me an idea to solve this problem?

Two straight roads intersect at right angles. Car A, moving on one of the roads,
approaches the intersection at 60km/h and Car B, moving on the other road,
approaches the intersection at 80km/h. At what rate is the distance between the
cars changing when A is 0.5km from the intersection and B is 0.7km from the
intersection?


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i don't have any idea..
 
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Sounds like a diagram could be very useful since this is involves geometry (please look at the attached diagram)

Let's see what we're given:

[tex]\frac{da}{dt} = -60km/h[/tex]

[tex]\frac{db}{dt} = -80km/h[/tex]

We need to find:

[tex]\frac{dx}{dt}[/tex]

-Try and find an expression for x in terms of a and b.

-Then sub that into the above expression. Remember that

[tex]\frac{dx}{dt}[/tex] is just [tex]\frac{d}{dt} (x)[/tex]

-Then use the chain rule to differentiate that expression, remembering that 'a' and 'b' are functions of t.

-Sub in the conditions, and voila!
 

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-Try and find an expression for x in terms of a and b.

thank u very much for such ideas..
erm.. x is a hypotenuse

where x=[tex]\sqrt{a^{2} + b^{2}}[/tex]

let say the distance is D

D = sqrt(0.5^2 + 0.7^2)
that should be my x or hypotenuse right?
 
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[tex]\frac{dx}{dt} = \frac{d(\sqrt{a^2+b^2})}{dt}[/tex]

Differentiate that using the chain rule (since 'a' and 'b' are functions of t) and you will get an expression

[tex]\frac{dx}{dt} = ...[/tex],

where the right hand side contains 'a', 'b', [tex]\frac{da}{dt}[/tex] and [tex]\frac{db}{dt}[/tex].

Then you sub in a = 0.5, b = 0.7, [tex]\frac{da}{dt} = -60[/tex], [tex]\frac{db}{dt} = -80[/tex] and voila
 
Identity said:
[tex]\frac{dx}{dt} = \frac{d(\sqrt{a^2+b^2})}{dt}[/tex]

Differentiate that using the chain rule (since 'a' and 'b' are functions of t) and you will get an expression

[tex]\frac{dx}{dt} = ...[/tex],

where the right hand side contains 'a', 'b', [tex]\frac{da}{dt}[/tex] and [tex]\frac{db}{dt}[/tex].

Then you sub in a = 0.5, b = 0.7, [tex]\frac{da}{dt} = -60[/tex], [tex]\frac{db}{dt} = -80[/tex] and voila

got one question here..
why is the speed in negative?
 
X dX/dt = A da/dt + B db/dt

am i right?
so.. i should find dX/dt right?
i plug in all the value..

i got 100 km.. am i answered it correctly?
 
Yep I think that's correct (100km/h)
 
Identity said:
Yep I think that's correct (100km/h)

got one question here..
why is the speed in negative?
 
da/dt and db/dt aren't speeds, they are the rate at which the distances a and b decrease. So actually dx/dt should be -100km/h (oops), because it is decreasing as the cars get closer
 

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