Equation of line intersecting two planes

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The discussion revolves around finding the equation of a line that intersects two given planes defined by the equations 2x - y + 2z = 1 and x + y - 2z = 1. The original poster is seeking clarification on how to express the line's equation in terms of a cross product, as requested by their teacher.

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  • Participants discuss methods for finding the intersection of the two planes, including using normal vectors and parametric equations. The original poster expresses confusion about incorporating the coefficients of the planes into the cross product form. Others suggest exploring the relationship between the equations of the planes to derive a point on the intersection line.

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Some participants have provided alternative methods for approaching the problem, including solving for variables in terms of a parameter. The original poster has received suggestions that may help clarify their understanding of the relationship between the planes and the desired form of the equation.

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The original poster is constrained by the requirement to express the solution in a specific format involving cross products, which has led to confusion regarding the application of the normal vectors of the planes.

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Homework Statement


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Find the cross product equation for the line L that forms the intersection of the planes:

A: 2x - y + 2z = 1 and B: x + y - 2z = 1.

Homework Equations



General equations for planes A and B:

(a, b, and r are vectors).

A: a dot r = 1

B: b dot r = 1

r = xi + yj + zk ; i, j, k here are the unit vectors.

r X (b X a) = b - a

alternatively, (b X a) X r = a - b

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I only know one way in which to solve for the equation of a line intersecting two planes and that is to use the coefficients of the variables of x, y, and z to define two normal vectors, cross those normal vectors to get a parallel line to the intersecting line, then set x, y, or z equal to zero and solve the equations for x and y to define a point. Then, having a vector in the direction of the line (the cross product of the norms) and a point on the line, put it in the form r(t) = (position vector of point) + t(cross product of the norms). I solved the equation for the line in this way, but my teacher wants it as a "cross product equation." I have no clue how to get a and b to stick into the equations for the planes listed above. The only thing I could think of was using the coefficients of x, y, and z; but that makes no sense because that would be dotting a vector with its normal vector and the product would be 0, not 1. Does anyone have any ideas? The parametric equation I got for the line was r(t) = < 2/3, 1/3, 0, 6, 3 >, but this is not in the r X (b X a) form he wants it in. Thanks in advance.
 
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Here is a simpler method: Any point on the intersection of the two planes must lie on both planes. And that means that if we designate the point (x, y, z), x, y, and z must satisfy both equations. Now, if we had three equations, we could, generally, solve for specific values of x, y, and z: three planes intersect in a single point.

With two equations, we can solve for two of the variables in terms of the third, using that third as parameter in parametric equations for a line.

Here, notice that one equation has "-y+ 2z" and the other has "y- 2z". Adding the equations, both y and z cancel, leaving a single equation in x only. Solve that for a specific value for x. The line is parallel to the yz-plane, x is that constant all along the line. Putting that value of x into the equations gives you one equation in y and z. Solve for y in terms of z and use z as parameter or solve for z in terms of y and use y as parameter.
 
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BigFlorida said:
I have no clue how to get a and b to stick into the equations for the planes listed above. The only thing I could think of was using the coefficients of x, y, and z; but that makes no sense because that would be dotting a vector with its normal vector and the product would be 0, not 1.
Actually, your idea is right. Take the first plane, for example. You have ##2x-y+2z=1##, which can be written as ##(2,-1,2)\cdot(x,y,z) = 1##, which is the form you said you want.

An equation of a plane of the form ##\vec{n}\cdot \vec{r} = 0## corresponds to a plane that passes through the origin. For one that doesn't go through the origin, its equation can be expressed in the form ##\vec{n}\cdot (\vec{r} - \vec{r}_0) = 0##, where ##\vec{r}_0## is a point that lies in the plane.
 
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@HallsofIvy I did not think of doing that, but I will definitely give it a shot. Thank you!

@vela I never even considered the case of n⃗ ⋅(r⃗ − r⃗ 0) = 0, thank you so much. That has just helped me accomplish what I set out to do!
 

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