Angle between intersecting vectors

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The discussion revolves around determining whether two lines intersect and finding the angle between them. The lines are given in parametric form, and the problem involves vector analysis to find the angle using the cosine formula.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the intersection of the lines and the calculation of the angle between them using direction vectors. There is a focus on the interpretation of angles, particularly regarding acute versus obtuse angles.

Discussion Status

Participants have shared their calculations and interpretations of the angle, noting discrepancies in expected results. There is an ongoing exploration of how to interpret the angle in the context of vector direction and the implications of different angle measures.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference potential confusion regarding the definition of "angle" as it pertains to their professor's expectations, which may influence how they present their findings.

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Homework Statement



Given 2 lines, determine whether they are intersecting or not. If they are, determine the angle between them.

Line(1): x = 1-t, y = 3-2t, z = t
Line(2): x = 2+3t, y = 3+2t, z = 1+t

Homework Equations



cos(theta) = (a·b)/([itex]\left|a\right|[/itex][itex]\left|b\right|[/itex])

The Attempt at a Solution


I know that they intersect, I've done all the work in my notebook and checked the back of the book for the answer and they indeed intersect. My problem lies with finding the angle.

Since I have those two lines up above, doesn't that mean I can find the direction vectors of both and both direction vectors will intersect with the same angle as the lines? If so, I tried using the above equation with

a = <-1,-2,1> and b=<3,2,1>

and I am unable to get 49.1° which is the answer.
 
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Reefy said:

Homework Statement



Given 2 lines, determine whether they are intersecting or not. If they are, determine the angle between them.

Line(1): x = 1-t, y = 3-2t, z = t
Line(2): x = 2+3t, y = 3+2t, z = 1+t

Homework Equations



cos(theta) = (a·b)/([itex]\left|a\right|[/itex][itex]\left|b\right|[/itex])

The Attempt at a Solution


I know that they intersect, I've done all the work in my notebook and checked the back of the book for the answer and they indeed intersect. My problem lies with finding the angle.

Since I have those two lines up above, doesn't that mean I can find the direction vectors of both and both direction vectors will intersect with the same angle as the lines? If so, I tried using the above equation with

a = <-1,-2,1> and b=<3,2,1>

and I am unable to get 49.1° which is the answer.

All looks right so far. What do you get for the answer? I think the answer to your dilemma is that e.g. some people would consider an angle of 170° to be the same as angle of 10° if you aren't paying attention to the direction of the vectors. Just to the angle between them.
 
Dick said:
All looks right so far. What do you get for the answer? I think the answer to your dilemma is that e.g. some people would consider an angle of 170° to be the same as angle of 10° if you aren't paying attention to the direction of the vectors. Just to the angle between them.

Ah, that might be it. I remember my professor saying something along those lines.

For the answer I got

arccos(-6/√84) ≈ 130.9°

Edit: The thing you were saying at the end, can you explain it a little? I think you're right because if I subtract 130.9 from 180, I get 49.1 degrees. But why do I need to subtract it from 180?
 
Reefy said:
Ah, that might be it. I remember my professor saying something along those lines.

For the answer I got

arccos(-6/√84) ≈ 130.9°

Edit: The thing you were saying at the end, can you explain it a little? I think you're right because if I subtract 130.9 from 180, I get 49.1 degrees. But why do I need to subtract it from 180?

Because if you are measuring the angle between two lines you might interpret it to be acute angle between them. I actually think the answer 130.9 is the better answer because vectors do have a direction. But what if your professor says 'angle' means that you'd better go along.
 
Dick said:
Because if you are measuring the angle between two lines you might interpret it to be acute angle between them. I actually think the answer 130.9 is the better answer because vectors do have a direction. But what if your professor says 'angle' means that you'd better go along.

Ah, ok. It kinda makes senses. I'm going to ask my professor which answer he would prefer.

Thanks for the help!
 

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