Solving the Limit of a Two-Variable Function

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The problem involves evaluating the limit of a two-variable function as both variables approach zero, specifically examining the conditions under which the limit exists for nonnegative integers a, b, c, and d. The context is rooted in real analysis and involves understanding the behavior of limits in multiple dimensions.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • The original poster attempts to analyze specific cases by setting a=b=c=d=1 and exploring the limit under different conditions. Some participants suggest using polar coordinates to simplify the analysis. Others question how the independence of a, b, c, and d affects the limit and discuss the implications of the sine and cosine functions in the context of the limit's existence.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various approaches and sharing insights. Some have provided guidance on specific cases and suggested assumptions to consider, while others are seeking further clarification on the implications of their findings.

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There are indications of potential complexities in generalizing the limit across different values of a, b, c, and d. Participants are also navigating the challenge of determining the limit's existence based on the relationships between these variables.

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This question came up in a book I am using for self study. I was going to just skip the question but then I remembered I can ask for help here.

Homework Statement



Let a,b,c,d be nonnegative integers. For what values of a,b,c,d does
[tex][/tex]
[tex] \lim_{\substack{x\rightarrow 0\\y\rightarrow 0}} \frac{x^a y^b}{x^{2c}+y^{2d}}[/tex]
exist? For those values, what is the limit?(ignore the set A if you can see it, I think its a glitch)

Homework Equations



Just basic definitions of limits. Nothing beyond a first semester of real analysis should be needed.

The Attempt at a Solution



When I assumed that a=b=c=d=1 and fix x=0, then the limit is 0, yet if I assumed x=y then the limit was 1/2 and determined that the limit doesn't exist. However, I do not know how to generalize it to any value of a,b,c,d. I was thinking of just assuming its a 6 dimensional problem, but there are problems with doing that so I came here for help.
 
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Try using polar coordinates.
 
SammyS said:
Try using polar coordinates.

Well, if a=b=c=d=1, I get a neat little tidbit saying that the limit as r goes to zero is sin(theta)cos(theta) for what ever theta you travel through to get to 0. Though this confirms my assumption that the limit doesn't exist for when a=b=c=d=1, it doesn't tell me anything about for when a,b,c,d are independent of each other. When a,b,c,d are different from each other, I start getting powers of r in the numerator and denominator which doesn't help much. I suppose I could be missing something, so if so, could I get a better hint?
 
I had an idea and maybe you can tell me if I am right. Since sin and cos are between -1 and 1, and the denominators values of sin and cos is always greater than or equal to 0 then if a + b > max{2c,2d}, then the limit goes to 0, if not then the limit doesn't exist. Am I on the right track?
 
Assume that c ≥ d and see what you get in that case. This let's you factor out r2d in the denominator.

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Try for instance: a=1, b=2, c=3, d=2 .
 
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