Solving Vector Subspace Questions: A & B in V

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The discussion revolves around determining if the intersection (A ∩ B) and union (A ∪ B) of two vector subspaces A and B of a vector space V are themselves vector subspaces. The initial strategy proposed involves finding counterexamples to show that the union is not a subspace while confirming that the intersection is. Participants emphasize the need to test closure properties for both operations to validate the claims. It is noted that if both the intersection and union are not subspaces, finding a counterexample is essential. The conversation highlights the importance of rigorous proof in vector space theory.
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Hey guys this is the question

. Let A and B be vector subspaces of a vector space V .
The intersection of A and B, A ∩ B, is the set {x ∈ V | x ∈ A and x ∈ B}.
The union of A and B, A ∪ B, is the set {x ∈ V | x ∈ A or x ∈ B}.
a) Determine whether or not A ∩ B is a vector subspace of V . Prove your answer.
b) Determine whether or not A ∪ B is a vector subspace of V . Prove your answer.


My strategy for this is to find two subspaces in V and find a counter claim so that the union of A and B is not a subspace and similarly for the intersection of A and B would this be strategy be enough to answer the question?

thanks so much.
 
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for the union pick arbitrary elements a in A, b in B, is a+b in A U B?
 
for int pick arbitrary elements in A int B, and test the subspace closure requirements
 
flon said:
Hey guys this is the question

. Let A and B be vector subspaces of a vector space V .
The intersection of A and B, A ∩ B, is the set {x ∈ V | x ∈ A and x ∈ B}.
The union of A and B, A ∪ B, is the set {x ∈ V | x ∈ A or x ∈ B}.
a) Determine whether or not A ∩ B is a vector subspace of V . Prove your answer.
b) Determine whether or not A ∪ B is a vector subspace of V . Prove your answer.


My strategy for this is to find two subspaces in V and find a counter claim so that the union of A and B is not a subspace and similarly for the intersection of A and B would this be strategy be enough to answer the question?

thanks so much.
It would be sufficient if they are both not subspaces. But are you sure of that?
 
sorry if the intersection and union are both NOT subspaces?
 
yeah, you'll only find a counter example if they are not a subspace
 
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