Solving Watts Units: V/m From H/m, m/s, W/m^2

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The discussion revolves around the dimensional analysis of the formula E_0 = √(2μ_0 c⟨S⟩), specifically focusing on the conversion of units from H/m, m/s, and W/m² to V/m. Participants are attempting to understand the underlying relationships between these units.

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  • The original poster attempts to analyze the units step by step, questioning whether a combination of Henrys, Watts, and other units can equate to Volts. Other participants provide insights into the relationships between the units, suggesting that the dimensional analysis can lead to a conclusion about the equivalence of units.

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Participants have offered various approaches to the dimensional analysis, with some suggesting that the units can indeed be reconciled to show that a volt squared is equivalent to a henry-watt divided by a second. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the units without a definitive consensus on the original poster's method.

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Some participants note that the original textbook example does not provide intermediate steps, which has led to confusion and further questioning of the assumptions made in the unit conversions.

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The book gives the following formula
[tex]E_0 = \sqrt {2\mu _0 c\left\langle S \right\rangle }[/tex]

And when it uses it in an example, the units go from:
[tex]\sqrt {\left( {{\rm{H/m}}} \right)\left( {{\rm{m/s}}} \right)\left( {{\rm{W/m}}^{\rm{2}} } \right)}[/tex]
to [tex]V/m[/tex], with no intermediate steps. My two efforts fall short:

Attempt #1
[tex]\sqrt {\left( {{\rm{H/m}}} \right)\left( {{\rm{m/s}}} \right)\left( {{\rm{W/m}}^{\rm{2}} } \right)} = \sqrt {\frac{{{\rm{HmW}}}}{{{\rm{msmm}}}}} = \sqrt {\frac{{{\rm{HW}}}}{{{\rm{m}}^{\rm{2}} {\rm{s}}}}}[/tex]
Does a Henry - Watt divided by a second equal a Volt squared? If so, = V/m

Attempt #2 using N/A^2 instead of H/m for units of mu0
[tex]\begin{array}{l}<br /> \sqrt {\left( {{\rm{N/A}}^{\rm{2}} } \right)\left( {{\rm{/s}}} \right)\left( {{\rm{W/}}{\rm{m}}} \right)} = \\<br /> \\<br /> \sqrt {\frac{{{\rm{NW}}}}{{{\rm{A}}^{\rm{2}} {\rm{s}} \cdot {\rm{m}}}}} = \sqrt {\frac{{{\rm{kgmJ}}}}{{{\rm{A}}^{\rm{2}} {\rm{s}} \cdot {\rm{ms}}^{\rm{2}} {\rm{s}}}}} = \sqrt {\frac{{{\rm{kg - m - kg - m - m}}}}{{\left( {\frac{{\rm{C}}}{{\rm{s}}}} \right)^{\rm{2}} {\rm{s - m - s}}^{\rm{2}} {\rm{s - s}}^{\rm{2}} }}} = \sqrt {\frac{{{\rm{kg - m - kg - m - }}{\rm{ - }}}}{{{\rm{C}}^{\rm{2}} {\rm{s - }}{\rm{ - s}}^{\rm{2}} {\rm{ - s - }}}}} \\<br /> \\<br /> = \sqrt {\frac{{{\rm{kg - m - kg - m}}}}{{{\rm{C}}^{\rm{2}} {\rm{s - s}}^{\rm{2}} {\rm{ - s}}}}} = \sqrt {\frac{{{\rm{kg - m - kg - m}}}}{{\left( {{\rm{FV}}} \right)^{\rm{2}} {\rm{s - s}}^{\rm{2}} {\rm{ - s}}}}} = \sqrt {\frac{{{\rm{kg - m - kg - m}}}}{{{\rm{F}}^{\rm{2}} {\rm{V}}^{\rm{2}} {\rm{ - s - s}}^{\rm{2}} {\rm{ - s}}}}} = \sqrt {\frac{{{\rm{NW}}}}{{{\rm{A}}^{\rm{2}} {\rm{s - m}}}}} = \sqrt {\frac{{{\rm{kg - }}{\rm{ - mJ}}}}{{{\rm{A}}^{\rm{2}} {\rm{s}}{\rm{ - s - s}}^{\rm{2}} }}} = \\<br /> \\<br /> \sqrt {\frac{{{\rm{kg - mJ}}}}{{{\rm{A}}^{\rm{2}} {\rm{s - s - s}}^{\rm{2}} }}} \\<br /> \end{array}[/tex]

This is not beginning to resemble [tex]\sqrt {\frac{{{\rm{V}}^{\rm{2}} }}{{{\rm{m}}^2 }}}[/tex]
 
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Henries have the same units as do volt-seconds/ampere. Watts are of course volt-amperes. Thus (H/m)·(m/s)·(W/m2) is equivalent to (V·s)/(A·m)·(m/s)·(V·A/m2) = (V/A)·(V·A/m2) = (V/m)2
 
An equation that may come in handy:

L*dI/dt = V.

Since we're doing a dimensional analysis, we can ignore the (dimensionless) d's"

LI/t = V.

Multiplying both sides by V, LIV/t = V^2.

Power = P = IV, so substituting this in we get LP/t = V^2.

The unit of L is H (inductance is measured in Henrys), the unit of P is W (power is measured in watts) and the unit of t is s, so it is indeed true that a volt squared = henry times a watt (or a henry-watt) divided by a second.
 
Thanks, DH and Joeyar. I doubt I was required to justify this step since the book doesn't, but I just had to know :)
 

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