Solve Sin^2 Tetherball: 3.8 m Rope & 5.6 m/s Velocity

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The problem involves a tetherball on a 3.8 m rope moving with a velocity of 5.6 m/s, requiring the calculation of the angle θ that the rope makes with the pole. The key equations derived include Tcos(θ) = mg and Tsin(θ) = mv²/r, leading to the relationship tan(θ) = v²/(gr). The discrepancy between the calculated angle of 40° and the book's answer of 48.4° is resolved by recognizing that the radius r in the centripetal force equation must be defined as r = r sin(θ), linking the rope length to the radius of the circular motion.

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I'm working on the exact same problem described in this 3 year old thread:
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=433104
except the length of my rope is 3.8 m and my velocity is 5.6 m/s.
A tetherball is on a rope 3.8 m long and moves in a circle with velocity 5.6 m/s. Solve for the angle the rope makes with the pole.

I follow the explanation in the old thread up to this point.

<br /> \begin{array}{l}<br /> \left( {\frac{{mv^2 }}{{r\sin \theta }}} \right)\cos \theta = mg \\ <br /> \\ <br /> \frac{{\cos \theta }}{{\sin ^2 \theta }} = \frac{{rg}}{{v^2 }} \\ <br /> \end{array}<br />

When I rearrange the top expression into the bottom expression, I don't get sin^2. I just get sin. It becomes very simple to solve for θ at that point. How did sin end up getting squared?

My full attempt is this:
<br /> \begin{array}{l}<br /> T\cos \theta = mg \\ <br /> T\sin \theta = \frac{{mv^2 }}{r}\,\,\,\, \Rightarrow \,\,\,\,T = \frac{{mv^2 }}{{r\sin \theta }} \\ <br /> \frac{{mv^2 }}{{r\sin \theta }}\cos \theta = mg \\ <br /> \frac{{\sin \theta }}{{\cos \theta }} = \frac{{v^2 }}{{gr}} \\ <br /> \tan \theta = \frac{{v^2 }}{{gr}}\,\,\,\, \Rightarrow \,\,\,\,\theta = \tan ^{ - 1} \frac{{\left( {5.6\,{\rm{m/s}}} \right)^2 }}{{\left( {9.8\,{\rm{m/s}}^{\rm{2}} } \right)\left( {3.8\,{\rm{m}}} \right)}} = 40^\circ \\ <br /> \end{array}<br />

The back of the book says 48.4 degrees.
When I continue the problem with the sin^2, I get the correct answer. The logic makes sense. But where did that extra sin come from?
 
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You used the length of the rope for r. Can you find the relationship between r and the length of the rope?
 
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Thanks. I missed that! The earlier explanation used r for both rope length and radius. r = r sin theta -->> r(circle) = r(rope)sin theta.
 

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