TerryW
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- Homework Statement
- What is Q in Figure 25.7
- Relevant Equations
- Q^2 = (R-2)(R+6) etc
Figure 25.7 in MTW is unusual in that it introduces formulae with no real explanation as to how they have been derived. I refer to the use of ##Q^2 = (R-2)(R+6)## and ##Sin^2 \theta = k^2 = (Q-R+6)/2Q## and then ##sin^2 \phi_{min} = (2+Q-R)/(6+Q-R)## leading to ##\Theta = 4*(R/Q)^{½}(F(\pi/2,\theta) - F(\phi_{min},\theta)) - \pi##
So I decided to to try find out how these formulae might be generated.
My first step was to solve: ##\big(\frac{du}{d\phi}\big)^2 +(1-2u)u^2 = u_b^2##
ie ##d\phi = \frac{du}{\sqrt2(u^3-1/2u^2+1/2U_b^2)^{½}}= \frac{du}{\sqrt2(sqrt(u-r_1)(r_2-u)(r_3-u))}##
A cubic of the form ##u^3 +\alpha u^2+\beta u + \gamma## can be factorised into ##(u-r_1)(r_2-u)(r_3-u)## using a standard process.
I built a spreadsheet to find ##r_1## ,##r_2## and ##r_3## for the values of ##\alpha = 0.5, \beta =0## and a range of values for ##\gamma = \frac{1}{2}u_b^2 =< \frac{1}{2}u^2_{b(min)}## where ##u_{b(min)} = \frac{1}{b(min)} = \frac{1}{3\sqrt3}##
The next stage is to get ##\frac{du}{\sqrt2((u-r_1)(r_2-u)(r_3-u))^{½}}## into a form which can be integrated.
Using the substitution ##u = r_2-(r_2-r_1)cos^2\theta## and ##du = -2(r_2-r_1)Sin\theta cos\theta##
I arrive at ##\frac{1}{\sqrt 2} \int _0^b\frac{du}{\sqrt ((u-r_1)(r_2-u)(r_3-u))} = \frac{1}{\sqrt 2} \int \frac{2d\theta}{\sqrt(r_3-r_1)\sqrt(1-k^2sin^2\theta)}## where ##k^2 = \frac{(r_2-r_1)}{(r_3-r_1)}##
I'm now ready to evaluate (1) the various formulae involving Q and R in Fig 25.7 with their equivalents from my analysis, taking the values for ##b= \frac{1}{u_b} = 5.2065.## and contrasting them with the equivalents derived from the roots of the cubic.
A (MTW) ##b^2 = 5.2065^2 = \frac{R^3}{(R-2)} ## This is a cubic equation which has one root with the value of 3.11474.
A (Cubic) One of the roots of ##u^3 - \frac{1}{2} u^2 + \frac{1}{2}u_b^2 = 0## when u_b is set to 0.19207 (=##\frac{1}{5.2065}##) is 0.32105 =##\frac{1}{3.11474}##
So, solving the cubic ##u^3 - \frac{1}{2} u^2 + \frac{1}{2}u_b^2 = 0## provides a value for 1/R where R is the distance of closest approach.
B (MTW) ##Q^2 = (R-2)(R+6) = (3.1147-2)(3.1147+6)= 10.16016, Q= 3.1874##
Q is then used to generate ##k^2##
##k^2 = (Q-R+6)/2Q = 0.9526##
B (Cubic) ##k^2 = \frac{(r_2-r_1)}{(r_3-r_1)} = \frac{(0.32105-(-0.16637))}{(0.34532-(-0.16637))} = 0.9526##
So the roots of ##u^3 - \frac{1}{2} u^2 + \frac{1}{2}u_b^2 = 0## are all that is needed to produce ##k^2##.
C (MTW) The so-called amplitude of the elliptic function ##sin^2\phi _min = (2+Q-R)(6+Q-R)##.
##(2+Q-R)(6+Q-R) = 2.0727/6.0727 = 0.34131. ##
##Sin^{-1}(\sqrt(0.34131) = 35.748º##
C (Cubic) ##\phi = cos^{-1}\big(\sqrt\frac{r_2}{r_2-r_1}\big) = 35.748º##
D (MTW) ##4(R/Q)^\frac{1}{2} = 4 * \sqrt (3.1147/3.1874) = 3.9541##
D (Cubic) ##\frac{4}{\sqrt 2 \sqrt (r_3-r_1)} = 3.9540##
I've confirmed that an impact parameter of ##b/M = \sqrt 27 - 0.065## gives a value of ##\Theta = 2pi##
The calculation for ##b/M = \sqrt 27 - 0.000012## gives ##4\pi##
So why did MTW use the formulae involving Q and R instead of working through from the cubic equation?
I've tried to find some relationship between MTW's R&Q and the three cubic roots r_1, r_2 and r_3 but nothing is immediately obvious.
TerryW
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So I decided to to try find out how these formulae might be generated.
My first step was to solve: ##\big(\frac{du}{d\phi}\big)^2 +(1-2u)u^2 = u_b^2##
ie ##d\phi = \frac{du}{\sqrt2(u^3-1/2u^2+1/2U_b^2)^{½}}= \frac{du}{\sqrt2(sqrt(u-r_1)(r_2-u)(r_3-u))}##
A cubic of the form ##u^3 +\alpha u^2+\beta u + \gamma## can be factorised into ##(u-r_1)(r_2-u)(r_3-u)## using a standard process.
I built a spreadsheet to find ##r_1## ,##r_2## and ##r_3## for the values of ##\alpha = 0.5, \beta =0## and a range of values for ##\gamma = \frac{1}{2}u_b^2 =< \frac{1}{2}u^2_{b(min)}## where ##u_{b(min)} = \frac{1}{b(min)} = \frac{1}{3\sqrt3}##
The next stage is to get ##\frac{du}{\sqrt2((u-r_1)(r_2-u)(r_3-u))^{½}}## into a form which can be integrated.
Using the substitution ##u = r_2-(r_2-r_1)cos^2\theta## and ##du = -2(r_2-r_1)Sin\theta cos\theta##
I arrive at ##\frac{1}{\sqrt 2} \int _0^b\frac{du}{\sqrt ((u-r_1)(r_2-u)(r_3-u))} = \frac{1}{\sqrt 2} \int \frac{2d\theta}{\sqrt(r_3-r_1)\sqrt(1-k^2sin^2\theta)}## where ##k^2 = \frac{(r_2-r_1)}{(r_3-r_1)}##
I'm now ready to evaluate (1) the various formulae involving Q and R in Fig 25.7 with their equivalents from my analysis, taking the values for ##b= \frac{1}{u_b} = 5.2065.## and contrasting them with the equivalents derived from the roots of the cubic.
A (MTW) ##b^2 = 5.2065^2 = \frac{R^3}{(R-2)} ## This is a cubic equation which has one root with the value of 3.11474.
A (Cubic) One of the roots of ##u^3 - \frac{1}{2} u^2 + \frac{1}{2}u_b^2 = 0## when u_b is set to 0.19207 (=##\frac{1}{5.2065}##) is 0.32105 =##\frac{1}{3.11474}##
So, solving the cubic ##u^3 - \frac{1}{2} u^2 + \frac{1}{2}u_b^2 = 0## provides a value for 1/R where R is the distance of closest approach.
B (MTW) ##Q^2 = (R-2)(R+6) = (3.1147-2)(3.1147+6)= 10.16016, Q= 3.1874##
Q is then used to generate ##k^2##
##k^2 = (Q-R+6)/2Q = 0.9526##
B (Cubic) ##k^2 = \frac{(r_2-r_1)}{(r_3-r_1)} = \frac{(0.32105-(-0.16637))}{(0.34532-(-0.16637))} = 0.9526##
So the roots of ##u^3 - \frac{1}{2} u^2 + \frac{1}{2}u_b^2 = 0## are all that is needed to produce ##k^2##.
C (MTW) The so-called amplitude of the elliptic function ##sin^2\phi _min = (2+Q-R)(6+Q-R)##.
##(2+Q-R)(6+Q-R) = 2.0727/6.0727 = 0.34131. ##
##Sin^{-1}(\sqrt(0.34131) = 35.748º##
C (Cubic) ##\phi = cos^{-1}\big(\sqrt\frac{r_2}{r_2-r_1}\big) = 35.748º##
D (MTW) ##4(R/Q)^\frac{1}{2} = 4 * \sqrt (3.1147/3.1874) = 3.9541##
D (Cubic) ##\frac{4}{\sqrt 2 \sqrt (r_3-r_1)} = 3.9540##
I've confirmed that an impact parameter of ##b/M = \sqrt 27 - 0.065## gives a value of ##\Theta = 2pi##
The calculation for ##b/M = \sqrt 27 - 0.000012## gives ##4\pi##
So why did MTW use the formulae involving Q and R instead of working through from the cubic equation?
I've tried to find some relationship between MTW's R&Q and the three cubic roots r_1, r_2 and r_3 but nothing is immediately obvious.
TerryW
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