Something simple that i cannot visualize?

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The problem involves evaluating the limit of the function sin(x)/(4x) as x approaches 0. The original poster expresses difficulty in visualizing the limit and attempts to relate it to known limits, particularly sin(x)/x.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to manipulate the limit expression by factoring out constants and questions whether their approach to simplifying the expression is correct. They also inquire about the behavior of cos(3x) as x approaches 0.

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Participants have provided various approaches to the limit, including references to the squeeze theorem and l'Hôpital's rule. Some have shared alternative methods such as Taylor expansion and have noted the analogy to the limit of sin(x)/x. There is no explicit consensus on a single method, but multiple lines of reasoning are being explored.

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The original poster seems to be grappling with the visualization of the limit and the implications of manipulating the expression. They express a desire to understand the reasoning behind the limit more deeply, indicating a focus on learning rather than just obtaining the answer.

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Something simple that i cannot visualize??

Homework Statement



limit as x approaches 0 for sinx/4x

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ok...what i know is that sinx/x=1 so by that simple statement the answer becomes 1/4 because sinx/x=1 and than there's 4x which gives me the 4...so 1/4...i tend to over think things...another question is why would cos3x=1 when x goes to 0? i know cosx goes to 1 when x equals 0...but wouldn't you multiply 1 by 3 so it would be 3 or is it because it oscillates to 1 all the time?


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ok so there's a way our teacher does it that I'm trying to figure out that way, even though i know the answer right off the bat, just thinking it might help me in the future

lim as X approaches 0 for sinx/4x...lim as x approaches 0 for (sinx)/((4x/4)*4)...this is to get rid of the 4(or should i be multiplying by 4x?) in the 4x and to put it on the outside...1/4 lim as x approaches 0 for (sinx)/(x)...lim as x approaches 0 for (1/4)*(1)=1/4...look right to everyone? am i cancelling out the 4x right?
 
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Hint: ignore squeeze theorem, use l'Hôpital's rule
 
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By L'Hopital,
[tex]\lim_{x \to 0} \frac{\sin x}{4 x} = \lim_{x \to 0} \frac{\cos x}{4} = \frac{1}{4}[/tex]

Or by Taylor expansion,
[tex]\lim_{x \to 0} \frac{\sin x}{4 x} = \lim_{x \to 0} \frac{x + \mathcal O(x^3) }{4 x} = \lim_{x \to 0} \frac{1 + \mathcal O(x^2) }{4} = \lim_{x \to 0} \left( \frac{1}{4} + \mathcal O(x^2) \right) = \frac14.[/tex]

Both ways completely analogous to how you would prove the [itex]\sin x/x[/itex] limit.

Or the stupid way :smile:
[tex]\lim_{x \to 0} \frac14 \frac{\sin x}{x} = \left( \lim_{x \to 0} \frac14 \right) \times \left( \lim_{x \to 0} \frac{\sin x}{x} \right) = \frac14 \times 1 = \frac14.[/tex]
 
CompuChip said:
Or the stupid way :smile:
[tex]\lim_{x \to 0} \frac14 \frac{\sin x}{x} = \left( \lim_{x \to 0} \frac14 \right) \times \left( \lim_{x \to 0} \frac{\sin x}{x} \right) = \frac14 \times 1 = \frac14.[/tex]
:smile:
 
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