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The discussion revolves around the calculation of average angular acceleration for a gramophone record, given initial and final angular velocities and angular displacement. The subject area pertains to rotational kinematics.

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  • Participants discuss the use of various rotational kinematic equations, with one original poster attempting to apply the equation w² = W² + 2aθ. There is confusion regarding the correct application of time and acceleration equations, leading to differing results for angular acceleration.

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Some participants have offered corrections regarding the assumptions made about constant angular velocity, suggesting that the original equations used may not be appropriate. There is ongoing exploration of the correct equations to use, but no consensus has been reached.

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Participants are questioning the validity of the equations used, particularly in relation to the assumption of constant angular velocity. There is also mention of standard equations that should be applied in such scenarios.

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Homework Statement


I need to find the average acceleration of a gramophone record.

Initial angular velocity, W = 0
Final angular velocity, w = 3.50rad s^-1
angular displacement, 8 = 0.25rad

Homework Equations


The equation given by the answer is

t= 8/w
a = ( w - W ) / t
the answer is 49.0 rad s-2

The Attempt at a Solution


This is the equation I use

w2 = W2 + 2a8

and I get 24.5rad s-2

But if I multiply it with 2, the angular acceleration will become 49rad s-2

That mean my equation will become
w2 = W2 + a8

Can anyone explain this to me?
Or I use a wrong equation?
 
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Stefenng said:

Homework Equations


The equation given by the answer is

t= 8/w
a = ( w - W ) / t
the answer is 49.0 rad s-2


The Attempt at a Solution


This is the equation I use

w2 = W2 + 2a8

and I get 24.5rad s-2

You are right:

t= 8/w is wrong because the angular velocity is not constant

It should be t= 28/w
 
ok...thx... ^^
 
Stefenng said:

Homework Equations


The equation given by the answer is

t= 8/w
a = ( w - W ) / t
the answer is 49.0 rad s-2

Hi Stefenng! :smile:

(have a theta: θ and an omega: ω :wink:)

You must learn the standard https://www.physicsforums.com/library.php?do=view_item&itemid=204" equations …

it isn't θ = ωt (or t = θ/ω), it's θ = ωt + 1/2 αt2 :wink:
 
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