Sound and supersonic motion - a question from Feynman's lectures

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The discussion revolves around a claim made by Feynman regarding sound generation by objects moving at supersonic speeds, as presented in his lectures. Participants explore the implications of this claim, particularly in relation to subsonic motion and the nature of sound waves.

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that Feynman claims objects moving faster than the speed of sound generate waves due to their motion, seeking justification for this assertion.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism, arguing that sound is merely disturbances in the medium and that subsonic objects also disturb the medium.
  • A different viewpoint suggests that while subsonic objects disturb the air, they do not create sound waves in the same manner as supersonic objects do.
  • One participant clarifies that sound waves are disturbances in the air, and that sonic booms result from the accumulation of these disturbances at supersonic speeds.
  • Another participant indicates that Feynman is referring to shock waves, which are a specific type of sound wave produced by supersonic motion.
  • Concerns are raised about Feynman's implication that subsonic motion does not generate waves on either side of the object.
  • A participant summarizes the discussion by stating that the key difference between subsonic and supersonic motion lies in how air disturbances accumulate to form shock waves in supersonic flight.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of sound generation in subsonic versus supersonic motion, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need for clarification on the definitions of sound waves and disturbances, as well as the conditions under which they are generated by moving objects.

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Sound and supersonic motion -- a question from Feynman's lectures

In chapter 51, volume 1 of the FLP, Feynman writes
Incidentally,...it turns out, very interestingly, that once [an] object is moving faster than the speed of sound, it will make sound...Any object moving through a medium faster than the speed at which the medium carries waves will generate waves on each side, automatically, just from the motion itself.

Unfortunately he didn't give a justification for this claim. I was hoping someone in Physics Forums could fill this gap in.
 
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I don't like it at all. Sound is just disturbances in the medium and a moving object most certainly disturbs the medium at subsonic speed.
 
Presumably he had in mind sound waves. (This is clear from the context the quote appears in). Subsonic objects definitely disturb the air around them but they don't create sound waves like supersonic objects.
 
Sound waves ARE disturbances in the air. The sonic boom shock wave is just the piling-up of all the disturbances on top of each other.
 
He is alluding to the presence of shock waves, which are essentially a form of sound waves that result simply from an object moving through a gas at supersonic speeds.
 
Yes, but he seems to be implying that objects moving at subsonic speed don't also "generate waves on each side".
 
Ok so the only difference between subsonic and supersonic motion is that the small air disturbances created by the motion reinforce each other to form a shock wave in supersonic flight, but don't in subsonic flight?
 

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