Sound traveling in water, compared to air - help please

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of sound waves as they transition from air to water, specifically focusing on how velocity, wavelength, and frequency are affected. The original poster presents an experimental scenario where sound travels faster in water, prompting questions about the changes in wavelength and frequency.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between velocity, wavelength, and frequency, questioning whether frequency changes when sound moves from air to water. Some suggest that frequency remains constant, while others consider the implications of this on wavelength.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the concepts involved, with some participants providing insights into the behavior of sound waves in different mediums. The discussion reflects varying interpretations of how frequency and wavelength interact when sound transitions between air and water.

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Participants are navigating assumptions about the constancy of frequency and the implications for wavelength changes, as well as the specifics of the experimental setup and results.

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Homework Statement



"Sound travels faster in water than in air. In our experiment, which aspects of velocity, wavelength and frequency changed when part of the sound traveled through the water? If the speed in water is faster by a factor of four, by how much did the wavelength and the frequency change?"

Homework Equations



velocity = wavelength x frequency

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The velocity I averaged out from the experiment was 309m/s (I know it's far off, but that's not the issue right now). I assumed I would use v=wavelength x frequency, but I only know one of the variables, because it said that both wavelength and frequency changed.
 
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If i remember correctly, the frequency of the wave doesn't change in water as opposed to air actually.

If you send a pulse into air aimed towards the water at a certain frequency do you think that the frequency would change once it hits the water?

You are sending the wave out at a certain frequency so when the wave is traveling through the air, it hits the water and goes into the water at the same rate you send it in at. So as it goes through the water at that same frequency.

So by that logic it would make sense that V=(alpha)(f), if f remained constant and V increased by a factor of 4, that the wavelength would also increase by a factor of 4.
 
Okay, thanks. My thoughts were that the water wouldn't change the frequency, but I wasn't absolutely sure.
 
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No, it did not say both changed, it asked you to recall which one(s) changed?

Thought experiment: Take a water-proof speaker generating a 440 Hz sine wave to the edge of a swimming pool. Now submerge yourself with the speaker in a swimming pool. What difference does your ear perceive?
 

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