(Sp. Relativity) Krel / Kcl in powers of (v/c)^2

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The problem involves expanding the ratio of kinetic energies, Krel and Kcl, in powers of (v/c)^2 to estimate the velocity ratio v/c at which Krel differs from Kcl by 10%. The subject area is special relativity, focusing on kinetic energy expressions in classical and relativistic contexts.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the binomial expansion of Krel/Kcl and the application of the 10% difference in their calculations. Questions arise regarding the proper setup of equations and the assumptions made about Kcl.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the percentage difference and the expansion process. There is an ongoing exploration of the definitions and equations involved, with no explicit consensus reached on the final approach.

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Participants are considering the implications of using different forms of Kcl and the constraints of the problem setup, including the definition of percentage difference and the assumptions about the variables involved.

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Homework Statement


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By expanding Krel / Kcl in powers of (v/c)^2, estimate the value of v/c for which Krel differs from Kcl by 10%.

Homework Equations



Kcl = classical Kinetic Energy = 1/2 m0 v^2
Krel = relative Kinetic Energy = (y-1) (m0 c)^2

The Attempt at a Solution



I did a binomial expansion wherein x = (v/c)^2 and n = -1/2
The result is...
[1 - (v/c)^2]^(-1/2) = 1 + 1/2(v/c)^2
so If I plug this value into the Lorentz factor of Krel,
I can equate K rel to the Kcl equation.

But at which step of this expansion can I apply the 10% difference?
Do I need to set up an equation wherein Krel = 11/10 (Kcl)?

Thanks!
 
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But at which step of this expansion can I apply the 10% difference?
You use, in addition to what you have done, the definition of "percentage difference".
What was your equation for Krel/Kcl ? (What were you exanding?)
Do I need to set up an equation wherein Krel = 11/10 (Kcl)?
Does that satisfy the definition?
Why not try it out and see what you get?
 
Hi Simon
Thanks for the help.

I think I am stuck at the expansion of K rel / K cl = (y-1) (m0 c^2) / (1/2)(m0 c^2)

Is there a website link or formula that can assist me with the expansion of the above equation in the power of (v/c)^2?

*and would it be okay for me to assume Kcl is (1/2)( m0 (v/c)^2 ) rather than with just c^2?
 
It's been solved. Thanks again.
 
Well done.
For the benifit of others stuck in the same way, how did you solve it?

Presumably younfigured out that Kcl = (1/2)mv^2 = (1/2)mc^2 (v/c)^2
 

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