Space-Time: Definition & Meaning

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the concept of space-time, exploring its definition and meaning within the context of physics. Participants engage with theoretical aspects, mathematical structures, and conceptual analogies, particularly whether space-time can be likened to a fabric and its implications regarding size and structure.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that space-time can be thought of as a fabric, while others challenge this analogy, emphasizing the mathematical structures involved, such as the manifold and the metric tensor.
  • A participant suggests that space-time is the set of all events, while another argues that it refers specifically to the manifold rather than the metric tensor.
  • Concerns are raised about the ambiguity of the analogy of space-time as a fabric, with suggestions for more specific questions regarding its properties, such as whether it can be cut, bent, or stretched.
  • One participant mentions that space-time is not composed of particles, describing it instead as the backdrop for physical events, though they acknowledge that some non-mainstream theories propose otherwise.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the analogy of space-time as a fabric and its mathematical representation, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without consensus.

Contextual Notes

Some statements reflect uncertainty regarding the definitions and interpretations of space-time, particularly in relation to its mathematical structures and physical implications. The discussion also highlights a lack of clarity in the analogy of space-time as a fabric.

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So what actually is space-time.
 
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So is space-time like a fabric.
 
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Aditya Vishwak said:
Any other post.

No, please read the wikipedia article completely first. Then ask if anything is unclear.
 
I want to know that whether space-time is like a large fabric spread through the universe and whether it is finite in size.
 
And you were answered. "No, please read the wikipedia article completely first. Then ask if anything is unclear. "
 
OP,

Just click on the wikipidia link provided by the members and read the sections Mathematics of Spacetimes and Spacetime in general relativity.
 
Aditya Vishwak said:
So is space-time like a fabric.

No. In relativity, there are mathematical structures called the "manifold" and the "metric tensor". The metric tensor is an additional mathematical structure that is placed on the manifold. Conceptually, the manifold is like a fabric, and the metric tensor is like a system of rulers and clocks at every point on the fabric. What we call "spacetime" in relativity usually refers to the metric tensor, ie. the system of rulers and clocks which live on the fabric.
 
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Aditya Vishwak said:
I want to know that whether space-time is like a large fabric spread through the universe and whether it is finite in size.

I'm a bit concerned that you haven't read (or at least having admitted to reading) any of the references that you were pointed towards.

How do you think one would tell if spacetime "was like a large fabric"?

If you asked something more specific like "Can space-time be cut", "Can spacetime be bent", "Can spacetime be stretched", "Can space-time be sewn together so you can make clothes out of it" (well, that one is a bit silly!) etc, we might be able to answer the question better. "Is it like a fabric" is rather ambiguous - is it like a fabric, how, exactly?
 
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Aditya Vishwak said:
So what actually is space-time.

Space-time is the set of all events.

atyy said:
No. In relativity, there are mathematical structures called the "manifold" and the "metric tensor". The metric tensor is an additional mathematical structure that is placed on the manifold. Conceptually, the manifold is like a fabric, and the metric tensor is like a system of rulers and clocks at every point on the fabric. What we call "spacetime" in relativity usually refers to the metric tensor, ie. the system of rulers and clocks which live on the fabric.

I don't think so. Spacetime doesn't refer to the metric tensor, but to the manifold.
 
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if you think that space time consists of some sort of particles that made up the "fabric" of spacetime, no this is not the case. Spacetime is the background stage where all the other particles perform their play. (Ok this might be way too poetic. )

However there are some theories not mainstream physics though, that claim that space time consists of particles.
 
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The OP has been given plenty of references. Thread closed.
 

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