Special relativity: 2d metric components

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The discussion revolves around a special relativity problem involving a 2D metric given by the expression ds² = x²dx² + 2dxdy - dy². Participants are tasked with finding the contravariant and covariant components of the metric tensor, g_{ab} and g^{ab}.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the implications of assuming a Euclidean metric, questioning the presence of non-diagonal components in the metric tensor. There is discussion about the necessity of including g_{01} and g_{10} terms and the reasoning behind the assumption of symmetry in the metric.

Discussion Status

Some participants express confusion regarding the metric's non-diagonal nature and its implications for their assumptions. Others have begun to clarify their understanding of symmetry in tensors and its relevance to the problem at hand. The conversation reflects a productive exploration of the topic, with participants questioning their initial assumptions and seeking deeper understanding.

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Participants are preparing for an upcoming exam, which may influence their urgency and approach to the problem. There is a focus on understanding the definitions and properties of the metric tensor in the context of special relativity.

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An SR question again, exam on monday.

Homework Statement


I'm given a 2D metric as:

[tex]ds^{2}=x^{2}dx^{2}+2dxdy-dy^{2}[/tex]

I have to first find the contravariant and covariant components of the metric, or [tex]g_{ab}[/tex] and [tex]g^{ab}[/tex]

Homework Equations


General expression of a metric tensor

[tex]ds^{2}=g_{\mu\nu}dx^{\nu}dx^{\mu}[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


Since the metric is 2D, I can write the above as (with significance to me)

[tex]ds^{2}=g_{00}dx^{0}dx^{0}+g_{11}dx^{1}dx^{1}[/tex] 1)

Now this is assuming that the metric is Euclidean, with the components not on the main diagonal being zero.

Now using "common sense" I know that in Euclidean space [tex]ds^{2}=dx^{2}+dy^{2}[/tex]
Comparing the two I can assume that [tex]g_{00}=1[/tex] and [tex]g_{11}=1[/tex], which seems to make sense, because then the Phythagoras theroem emerges from 1)

But! The lecturer has written down the metric formally as:

[tex]g_{ab}=\left[ \begin{array}{cc} g_{xx} & g_{xy} \\ g_{yx} & g_{yy} \end{array} \right][/tex]

And now, out of the blue for me, he has written [tex]g_{xx}=x^{2}[/tex] and [tex]g_{yy}=-1[/tex] Why so?

Further, he has written that the metric is non-diagonal, meaning that

[tex]\left[ \begin{array}{cc} g_{xx} & g_{xy} \\ g_{yx} & g_{yy} \end{array} \right]=\left[ \begin{array}{cc} x^{2} & 1 \\ 1 & -1 \end{array} \right][/tex]

the elements aside the main diagonal are not zero. I'm puzzled at this point. The non-diagonal metric means that the summation 1) is a false assumption by me, because the components are not zero. How do I approach this 2D metric to find the [tex]g_{ab}[/tex] and [tex]g^{ab}[/tex]?
 
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Uku said:
An SR question again, exam on monday.

Homework Statement


I'm given a 2D metric as:

[tex]ds^{2}=x^{2}dx^{2}+2dxdy-dy^{2}[/tex]

I have to first find the contravariant and covariant components of the metric, or [tex]g_{ab}[/tex] and [tex]g^{ab}[/tex]

Homework Equations


General expression of a metric tensor

[tex]ds^{2}=g_{\mu\nu}dx^{\nu}dx^{\mu}[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


Since the metric is 2D, I can write the above as (with significance to me)

[tex]ds^{2}=g_{00}dx^{0}dx^{0}+g_{11}dx^{1}dx^{1}[/tex] 1)

Why no [itex]g_{01}[/itex] and [itex]g_{10}[/itex] terms?
 
Because I assumed the metric to be Euclidean, where the components not on the main diagonal are zero, meaning that the [tex]g_{01}[/tex] and [tex]g_{10}[/tex] are zero, meaning I do not have to consider them in the summation. But now that you put my attention to it, ill look into it.

EDIT: I see some light!
 
Why assume the metric is Euclidean (although you should assume it is symmetric)? The metric is defined by the equation [itex]ds^{2}=x^{2}dx^{2}+2dxdy-dy^{2}[/itex].
 
Solved it! I assumed because I wanted to start solving the assignment from somewhere.

Why should I assume symmetry? Because I can't prefer any direction over others?
 
I have a second question about symmetry. My my course material, I have a following statement about symmetric tensors:

[tex]S^{\mu}_{\;\nu}=S^{\;\mu}_{\nu}\equiv S^{\mu}_{\nu}[/tex]

What does the spacing in the indexes mean?

EDIT: I see it means that the tensor has mixed components, but what does that mean when I start the summation? I'm seeing that I can't sum, because the indexes are both cotravariant or covariant.
 
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