Special Relativity and Decaying Particles

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The discussion revolves around a problem in special relativity involving the decay of pions, specifically a π+ particle created during cosmic ray collisions. The original poster is tasked with determining the height of the cosmic-ray collision above sea level based on the particle's energy and lifetime, as well as calculating its lifespan from the perspective of an observer on Earth.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to relate total energy and mass to find the speed of the pion, leading to calculations involving the Lorentz factor (γ). They express uncertainty about their calculations and seek clarification on their approach.
  • Some participants question the correctness of the original poster's calculations, particularly regarding the value of γ and the relationship between total energy, rest energy, and kinetic energy.
  • Others suggest that the original poster may have made sign errors in their equations and encourage a reevaluation of the calculations.

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Participants are working within the constraints of the problem as posed, which includes specific values for mass, energy, and lifetime of the pion. The original poster expresses difficulty in resolving the calculations, indicating a need for further clarification on the underlying principles.

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Homework Statement


Pions are part of a class of short-lived particles called mesons which commonly created during the collisions in scientific accelerators or when cosmic rays collide with particles in the upper part of the Earth's atmosphere. A type of pion known as a π+ has a mass of 139.6 MeV/c2. One particular π+ was created during a collision in the Earth's upper atmosphere and has an total energy E= 1.25 X 105 MeV. As measured in its own frame, it has a life time of 38 nsec before it decays.
a) If it decays at a point 146 meters above sea-level, how high above sea-level was the comsic-ray collision that created the pion?

hcollision = m
255345.052163 NO

HELP: Provide this information in the frame of reference of an observer on earth.
HELP: How are the total energy and mass of an object related?

b) How long does the particle live in the frame of reference of an observer on earth??
Δtearth = nsec

c) In the frame of reference of the pion, how far does it traveled before it decayed?
Δxπ = m *
11.39 OK

Homework Equations


d ' = dγ
γ = sqrt (1 - v^2/c^2)
E = K - mc^2
K = mc^2[(1/γ)-1]

The Attempt at a Solution


I used total energy + rest energy (E + mc^2) = kinetic energy (K). When I solved K for V I found that the particle was moving nearly at the speed of light. .999999999004c (that's 9 9s).

I used that speed to calculate my γ = 4.46318e-5.

d' = dγ
11.39m = d (4.46318e-5)
d = 255199.052163 m

The particle decayed 146m about sea level so d+146 = 255345.052163.

But it tells me no, so I believe the error might have come in calculating my V. If I can get A, B will be no problem...but I'm stuck.

Help! Thanks!
 
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You have a sign error in one of your equations. The total energy is the sum of the rest energy and the kinetic energy.

Your value for ##\gamma## can't possibly be correct since ##\gamma \ge 1##.
 
vela said:
You have a sign error in one of your equations. The total energy is the sum of the rest energy and the kinetic energy.

Your value for ##\gamma## can't possibly be correct since ##\gamma \ge 1##.

I corrected my sign error: E = k + mc^2. However, that doesn't really change anything. My energy is 1.25e5 and the 139.6 MeV of mass isn't making any appreciable change in my kinetic energy. I'm getting the same answer.
 
What are you getting for ##\gamma##? You should get ##\gamma=895##.
 
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