Special relativity - compute relative velocity

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The problem involves a spaceship traveling from Earth to a star located six light-years away, with a rest mass of 32,000 kg. The time experienced by the spaceship's occupants is 2.5 years, and the questions focus on calculating the spaceship's velocity, the time taken in the Earth's frame, the distance in the spaceship's frame, and its kinetic energy in the Earth's frame.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of the Lorentz Transform and question the relationship between the variables involved, particularly the definitions of x and x' in different reference frames. Some express confusion about how to compute velocity without directly calculating time in the Earth's frame.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, exploring different approaches and clarifying concepts related to time dilation and length contraction. Some have offered insights into using Lorentz transformations, while others express uncertainty about specific calculations and the implications of the reference frames.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted complexity in the problem due to the interplay of relativistic effects, and participants are navigating the constraints of the given information, particularly regarding the definitions of variables in different frames of reference.

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Homework Statement


A spaceship travels from Earth to the vicinity of the star that is measured
by astronomers on Earth to be six light-years away. The spaceship
and its occupants have a total rest mass of 32 000 kg. Assume that the
spaceship travels at constant velocity. The time taken as measured by
clocks on the spaceship is 2.5 years.
(i) Compute the velocity of the spaceship. [3 marks]
(ii) How long does the trip take as measured by clocks in the Earth's
inertial rest frame? [3 marks]
(iii) What distance does the spaceship travel as measured in its own
reference frame? [3 marks]
(iv) Compute the kinetic energy of the spaceship in the Earth's rest
frame. [2 marks]


Homework Equations



(Lorentz transforms)

The Attempt at a Solution



x=6 light years, t'=2.5 years

I'm stuck on the first part of the problem. I know u=x/t, but the second part of the question asks for t, so their must be a way to find u without explicitly calculating t. Alternatively, u=x'/t', but the third part asks for x'. If anyone could give me a quick pointer that would be great. Thanks.
 
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Cameron95 said:

Homework Statement


A spaceship travels from Earth to the vicinity of the star that is measured
by astronomers on Earth to be six light-years away. The spaceship
and its occupants have a total rest mass of 32 000 kg. Assume that the
spaceship travels at constant velocity. The time taken as measured by
clocks on the spaceship is 2.5 years.
(i) Compute the velocity of the spaceship. [3 marks]
(ii) How long does the trip take as measured by clocks in the Earth's
inertial rest frame? [3 marks]
(iii) What distance does the spaceship travel as measured in its own
reference frame? [3 marks]
(iv) Compute the kinetic energy of the spaceship in the Earth's rest
frame. [2 marks]


Homework Equations



(Lorentz transforms)

The Attempt at a Solution



x=6 light years, t'=2.5 years

I'm stuck on the first part of the problem. I know u=x/t, but the second part of the question asks for t, so their must be a way to find u without explicitly calculating t. Alternatively, u=x'/t', but the third part asks for x'. If anyone could give me a quick pointer that would be great. Thanks.
The easiest thing to do is to use the Lorentz Transform. There are two events to consider.

Event 1: Spaceship leaves earth
x = 0, x' = 0, t = 0, t' = 0

Event 2: Spaceship arrives at star
x = 6c, x' = 0, t = ?, t' = 2.5

Event 2 has enough information for you to determine the velocity:
x = γ(x'+vt')

Chet
 
Chestermiller said:
The easiest thing to do is to use the Lorentz Transform. There are two events to consider.

Event 1: Spaceship leaves earth
x = 0, x' = 0, t = 0, t' = 0

Event 2: Spaceship arrives at star
x = 6c, x' = 0, t = ?, t' = 2.5

Event 2 has enough information for you to determine the velocity:
x = γ(x'+vt')

Chet

I'm not sure why x' is 0?
 
The problem gives you x and t' so neither v = x/t nor v = x'/t' will do. But keep in mind that time dilation and space contraction relate t to t' and x to x' respectively so using either of them allows you to solve the problem
 
Cameron95 said:
I'm not sure why x' is 0?
In the spaceship frame of reference, its coordinate doesn't change.

Chet
 
dauto said:
The problem gives you x and t' so neither v = x/t nor v = x'/t' will do. But keep in mind that time dilation and space contraction relate t to t' and x to x' respectively so using either of them allows you to solve the problem

I tried using time dilation, but I got a very small fraction of the speed of light, so I must have done something wrong. If it's not too much trouble, could you give a quick outline of the solution? I think I've confused myself too much thinking about it.
 
Cameron95 said:
I tried using time dilation, but I got a very small fraction of the speed of light, so I must have done something wrong. If it's not too much trouble, could you give a quick outline of the solution? I think I've confused myself too much thinking about it.

In fact, don't worry - I think I understand now. Thank you both for your help.
 

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